Transcending Emotional Barriers for a Journey of Self-Healing

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Speaker 1: hello, hello, it's Nadine here and I'm here with

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this week's episode of life, health and the universe.

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And it's the third Friday of the month, which means that we

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are joined by our guide for today, laverne Proctor, as we

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delve into part four of our series guide to universal living

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Hey, liven, good to see.

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You can't believe how quickly the month flies by before we're

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here again.

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I know they're coming around fast and this year already is

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getting away from us.

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I can't believe we're about to move into.

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Well, we're moving through april.

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I know, I know it's crazy.

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Um, yes, we are just going to get stuck straight in.

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I last uh month we um covered dragon power, which is one of

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the transference, healing uh processes, procedures.

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Um and um, I kind of had a read up and I've had some experience

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with that this month.

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I messaged you yesterday and said going to give me any clues?

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Yeah, I forgot to send you a text.

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That's fine.

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It's like you can pretty much guarantee that I'm going to have

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some questions, whatever we talk about, because you know, I

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like to know all of the things and you've got lots of things

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that you need to share with us.

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And so you gave me a clue, but I'm not going to give it away.

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I'll let you reveal what it is that we're going to be covering

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off on today.

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So, for listeners, before we go any further, if you haven't

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checked out the previous episodes, or as part of the

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series, we've done one, two, three so far, each supported

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with a guided meditation.

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Go back and check those out.

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You'll find them.

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They're colored purple instead of the sort of uh, bluey color

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that um used for the other episodes.

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And, um, yeah, go check them out, I think they can.

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You can pretty much listen to them in any order, whatever kind

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of tickles your fancy, I reckon .

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Yeah, I think that's true.

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I wasn't sure when we set on this journey together, I wasn't

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sure how it was all going to play out.

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So, yeah, I think, really, people can listen to them in

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whatever order they stumble on them or whatever order they're

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drawn to.

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So, definitely, you know there is absolute linkages and subtle

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overlaps.

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But, yes, I think you're safe to say that would be absolutely

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fine.

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I have to um say I feel it's a weird.

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I feel a bit weird today.

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Just um, I think there's a bit of planetary stuff going on and

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I don't know enerically, I just feel a little bit hairy fairy,

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so hopefully I can stay focused.

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But please excuse me, yeah, I mean, we've just had an eclipse,

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yes, yes.

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So there's huge frequencies of light hitting the planet and I

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think what's happening for you, nadine, you're getting more and

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more sensitive to energy and you're sensing and feeling that

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more and you're more conscious about your body and your energy

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field, and that's why you're noticing and becoming more aware

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of that.

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Yeah, there's also a solar eclipse coming up this month.

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I think that's right.

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It's going to go across Texas yeah, pretty amazing to Texas.

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Yeah, pretty amazing to watch, yeah, on TV.

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So I guess I mean that's a good lead in, to be honest, because

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you feeling that you might have noticed certain emotions arising

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right, and particularly in the last week.

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I don't know.

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You know, because I work with energy, I find it can be quite

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intense.

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You know, because I work with energy, I find it can be quite

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intense.

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But we're going to be discussing something very close

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to my heart and a bigger part of my conscious practice in daily

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life.

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But I'd like to preface first by stating as human beings, much

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of our existence is spent navigating the complexities of

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our emotions.

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You know, from joy to sorrow, from love to anger, and so our

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emotional landscape actually shapes every aspect of our lives

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So if you think about that for a moment, how many times in a

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day or a week, a month, you have found yourself caught in the

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grip of past hurts or replaying so the same scene or same

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experience in your mind repeatedly?

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We've all been trapped in this maze of our emotional pain and

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as human beings, we spend most of our lives trying to resolve

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something, either in ourselves or resolve something in our life

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So, really, the context today is exploring that and, you know,

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just delving into that a bit more.

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And how do we work with that and what types of things could

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we be doing to support ourselves through that emotional turmoil

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that comes through, you know, daily.

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Naturally, it comes up daily.

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Really, you could think about an experience that happened

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yesterday or last week and you might catch yourself this

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morning or last night reflecting back on that, and you might

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continue to reflect back on that because it had quite an

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energetic impact on you, and that's the type of thing I'm

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talking about and that's the context, really, of you know,

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today's topic.

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Cool, okay, yeah, go on.

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Can I just kind of quickly jump in?

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Interestingly, I think, like when you said that.

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You know, we replay those things in our head.

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Joe Dispenza, who many people, I'm sure listening will have

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heard of if haven't look him up, he's amazing.

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Um says that 95 percent of our thoughts are the same thoughts

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that we had yesterday, day before, the day before, the day

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before, and they just become habitual, correct, really

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amazing.

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And jo Dispenza is amazing and he really articulates exactly

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what I've just stated.

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You've done a great job of speaking to that on another

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level, and that's really what today's about.

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How do we start breaking that down?

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Okay, yeah, so that's beautiful , nadine, thanks for that input.

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So this emotional pain could have been from an experience

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that happened last week.

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Some of the emotional wounds we are carrying may have occurred

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in early childhood and have laid hidden for years, or it could

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be an emotional wound we have brought through from a previous

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life or previous lives, but these wounds essentially keep us

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in a Ferris wheel of a reality that may not be serving us or

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supporting us from reaching our full potential in this lifetime,

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in this lifetime.

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So, if we think about that for a moment, when we want to

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improve something in our life, when we want to make positive

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change, whatever that is for us.

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Most people know these days it starts with a self.

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I mean, there's so much information out there, isn't

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there, that if you want to change something, start with the

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self.

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Look in the mirror, you know.

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But really that's about becoming self-aware, being aware of how

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we're thinking, how we're feeling, what our perceptions

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are, our belief systems.

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They all play a critical part in determining what we need to

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change.

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Because if we observe our thoughts, if it's continuously

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something negative, especially if we're negative towards

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ourselves and putting ourselves down and whether it's around

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self-worth or I'm not good enough, well that's a good place

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to become very aware of what's coming up for us and to observe

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that and then decide well, do I want to change that?

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So it's our self-awareness and it's our ability to go inward.

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Do that self-check.

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That enables us to get clear on what do we need to change

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internally to support the change we seek in our reality and in

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our environment?

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And energetically and spiritually speaking, we say

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that our external world is just simply a reflection of our

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internal world and I think that's quite a well known

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statement to you know, there's so much information available to

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people.

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It would be hard to find someone that may not be aware?

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Yes, my thoughts do impact my reality.

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So if we want to fix something, we need to go internally, and

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if we can go internally, internally, this will support a

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change in our external world positively if we choose to work

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through something.

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So it's that whole inner work that we do is a key, and the

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more inner work we do, the more positively that ripples out into

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our reality and our environment and the experiences we have.

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So it's, you know, why is this a good practice?

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You know there's so many books out there that talk about, you

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know, observing the self and so forth.

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Why is this really a good practice?

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And why should we choose to try and say, all right, I'm going

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to look at myself in the mirror, I'm going to ask what I need to

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change and I'm really going to get honest with myself, how I'm

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thinking and feeling.

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Because when we recognize our unresolved issues of past hurt

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and emotional pain in our hearts , our minds, our soul level

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impacts our reality and in turn, that impacts our relationship.

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It impacts our health and our ability to grow, not only

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personally but spiritually, and achieve the goals we want to

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achieve in our life.

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You know, you think we become more motivated to change

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something, wouldn't you?

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You think, yeah, that's motivation enough, just

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acknowledging and understanding that's enough.

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But it's surprising, and it's interesting the statistics you

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have just referenced.

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It is surprising, even when we know this, still, as humans, we

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choose to hold onto something and not change it and to

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continue to play out an emotion from an experience that happened

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, whether it was months ago, years ago, or a pattern that we

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brought in into this lifetime to ideally clear in this lifetime.

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You know how much time.

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And you know you've just stated Joe Dispenser has confirmed

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that's what we do, this is how we spend our days.

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So the negative impact of not changing.

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Well, first of all, I call it the Ferris wheel effect.

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In our reality, you know the mouse on the wheel who's running

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, you know he's in the cage, he's got this wheel and he's

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running on this ferris wheel and he's going nowhere.

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You see he's just running and running, running and the ferris

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wheel continues to spin and he's just running and but standing

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still, really.

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So we replay certain emotional states of being, you know

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patterns of behavior and responses like that Ferris wheel

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type analogy.

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And then we're left wondering.

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You know, we walk through life and we're left wondering well,

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why do certain things keep happening to us, or why aren't

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things changing for us?

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And what I mean by that is under the influence of how we

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feel emotionally.

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We, you know, we're creating dynamics that play out, that

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continually play out that didn't need to play out, but because

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we're, our mindset is in an old thought pattern or still in an

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experience that happened in the past.

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We're playing that experience out in a new situation, but we

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may have not needed to play it out, okay, it may not have had

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to play out the way that it does .

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So we continue to develop dynamics that don't just serve

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us, but they basically create our experiences and continue to

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create similar experiences and patterns of experiences in our

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life.

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And it's all because we're unable to resolve an old emotion

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that happened in the past and we bring that emotion into a new

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situation.

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That may be a completely different scenario, but we bring

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that old emotion to that situation.

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It's very interesting.

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I've been.

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Is this an okay time to jump in Laverne?

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Of course I've been.

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Is this an okay time to to jump in Laverne?

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Um, yeah, because, um, well, there's a few I've written 700

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things or down already that we could talk about, um, that have

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popped up.

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But one thing that I think when you say that we, you know, we

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keep, we continue with those old patterns and this is something

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that, since I've kind of been been doing this kind of you know

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work, um, and becoming more aware of patterns and behavior,

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that we create beliefs around an emotion, right so, and and it's

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potentially we, we recreate an experience that didn't actually

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happen, but it's just our perception of what happened, and

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that's where that mirror thing comes in, right, it's like we

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that's actually how we responded to it there comes the emotional

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part of it, part of it, but, yeah, that we actually create

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beliefs and then we start to behave in a way that affirms

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that belief, so that I can then go see.

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That happened as well.

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This is proof that what I believe is true.

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Let me give you a really sort of an example.

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So someone's been unlucky in love yeah, okay, and they've

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always been unlucky in love and then, finally, they meet the

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person that they fall in love with, things start to change,

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everything's going the right way , they get married, have you

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know, and, and they're happy.

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But this person doesn't believe that they're lovable because of

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something that happened a long, long time ago, and so they'll

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start to do things and to the outside eye it can be quite

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obvious they'll start to do things like, um, change their

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behavior, um, do things that are out of the ordinary, that their

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partner doesn't recognize.

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It's almost like pushing the buttons to see do they really

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love me?

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Or, and, if you know, if things start going pear-shaped, they

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can go I'm not lovable.

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See, I knew it is that.

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Does that is that kind of a?

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I mean, that was a very beautiful scenario.

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That was a beautiful um scenario and um, an experiential

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example.

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So, yeah, so we're basically not only are we building new

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beliefs or negative beliefs about something that happened at

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some point in the life or it could be.

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We've come in with that and we naturally are that from the

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starting point.

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Basically, these are knee-jerk reactions, right?

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So they're old response patterns from unresolved

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emotions and, as you've stated, effectively we create repetitive

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experiences and outcomes in our life, creating that Ferris

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wheel existence, and this has like a significant impact, as

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you've noted, in our life experiences and our potential.

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What could we have created, you know, without going into an old

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emotional response pattern?

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You know, we could have created a completely different

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experience, completely new path and new reality through that

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process.

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So your example is a really good example.

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So we get left feeling stuck and we cannot break that pattern

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of experience to move forward.

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So that whole self awareness, having the strength and reserve

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and courage to really go in as that first point of call and

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observe well, why are these situations playing out?

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What is it about me?

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How am I responding?

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What am I doing that is potentially fueling my

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experiences and continued similar experiences.

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So the way we run our emotions significantly impacts everything

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in our life and our reality, and we often hear the phrase on

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social media we are the creators , we are the co-creators of our

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life, and Buddha said one of my favorite spiritual teachers with

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our thoughts we create our world, and this is so true.

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So we spend much of our time responding to new situations

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using old strategies, old patterns of behavior and we are

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wondering why nothing changes and if that's not bad enough.

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You know we keep living same experiences.

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Well, people are beginning to realize more and more and

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there's more and more information out there, which is

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fantastic that if we don't clear these old emotions and we

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continue to hold negative or toxic emotions, our emotional

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state of being becomes magnified and stress builds in our mind

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and our body.

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So we're impacted.

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You know we can be impacted in the physical.

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Something will build um in the physical and manifest in the

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physical or psychologically.

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We become imbalanced.

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You know, and you know there's there's a scale of that.

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You know people, yeah, just slightly psychologically

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imbalanced, or you know there's a scale of that.

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You know people, yeah, just slightly psychologically

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imbalanced, or you know the extreme of that.

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And there's people with physical symptoms.

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You know little symptoms through to.

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You know life-threatening.

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You know physical symptoms, symptoms.

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So the reason why we should probably pay a bit more

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attention and not only become self-aware internally, but start

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to to make a decision I really want to change something.

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So wanting to change something that's going on and break a

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pattern really is the next step, after first being aware of,

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well, what's going on here, okay .

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So wanting to change and really having the drive to want to

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change something is step two.

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And then the third step really is about, well, well, okay, so I

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recognize I have this pattern and secondly, I really want to

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change it.

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The first step is recognizing when a situation or circumstance

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plays out in my life, knowing and or observing internally what

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is going on, what is my state of mind what is my state of

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being right in this moment as I step into this experience or

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situation or circumstance, recognizing well, I'm feeling a

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bit off today, or I'm feeling a bit of anger today, or I'm

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feeling my self-worth is pretty low Okay, well, getting to a

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point of acceptance and self-love around that and

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unconditioned so okay.

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Well, getting to a point of acceptance and self-love around

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that and unconditioned so okay.

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Well, that's how I'm feeling.

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So I just need to be more conscious how I respond today to

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people or situations, because I'm feeling more vulnerable

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today.

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Something's coming up for me and I'm feeling vulnerable and I

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just need to pay attention that if someone says something that

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could trigger that emotion and fuel that emotion, I'm not going

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to go into an eugenic reaction, I'm not going to go into an old

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pattern of response Okay.

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So that's really step number three.

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So just catching ourselves and stopping a situation of

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replaying an old hurt and then externalizing that hurt okay.

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So, rather than getting stuck in a cycle of unresolved pain and

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knee-jerk patterns and responses , we're effectively choosing to

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accept well, I'm feeling, I'm pretty feeling off today, but

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I'm not, I'm seeing a situation.

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I'm just not going to respond in an old way, and when we do

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that, what we're actually doing is we're actually supporting a

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clearing process.

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Okay, because we're sort of starting to break down or

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starting to break through a pattern.

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We're breaking through a trigger response, we're breaking

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through a habit, we're breaking through a behavior, we're

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breaking through a belief.

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You know that isn't serving us.

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You know that isn't serving us, and we're choosing, in that

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moment, to respond differently.

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And when we do this, whether we realize it or not, we're really

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empowering ourselves.

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In that moment, we're mastering in ourselves in that moment,

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and we're actually making positive step change to start

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creating new experiences.

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So the more we do that because you can't.

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If you've got a deep-seated pattern, you know, if you really

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got a low sense of worth, you're not going to dissolve

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that.

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In one experience of hey, I chose not to respond differently

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, I held my sense of self in that situation.

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You have to keep working at it.

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It's like a nun.

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You have to keep peeling away and peeling away, especially if

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it's a big emotional pain or trauma.

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But in making those changes in responses, you are absolutely

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breaking that down and you're supporting that change.

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So what we ultimately really want to achieve, though, is to

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dissolve that emotional pain held deep within us, right, that

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creates that negative pattern.

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And it sounds easy.

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But if it was that easy, joe Dispenza wouldn't be doing all

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of his workshops, running all his workshops.

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But what was that?

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What was the percentage?

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95, 95, right, if it was that easy.

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So it's about being unconditional.

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You know, understanding.

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Well, this is the way I'm feeling, this is, and something

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that keeps coming up and you know I'm just going to keep

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chipping away.

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So you really have to have the mindset of just keep chipping

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away, right, um, and each time you find your situation, just

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chip away and chip away, and chip away and just practice the

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steps that I've outlined so far.

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But, to be honest, where we are on the planet right now and we

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touched on this in the Fifth Dimensional Consciousness

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podcast you know we're really at a point of an evolutionary

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process, whether we're conscious of this or not.

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You know, I talked about how the planet is shifting and

00:26:12
changing and lifting its vibration and frequency and

00:26:15
we're connected to the planet, changing and lifting its

00:26:18
vibration and frequency, and we're connected to the planet.

00:26:19
So we're being pushed to shift and change in our frequency and

00:26:21
vibration and, more than ever, there are light codes, which was

00:26:27
a great intro from your perspective saying you know, I'm

00:26:30
feeling a bit lightheaded and something going on, these light

00:26:33
codes that are coming through that is supporting the planet to

00:26:38
keep lifting in vibration is also supporting us to lift in

00:26:43
our vibration.

00:26:44
But in order that we can lift our vibration, we have to let go

00:26:49
of old stuff.

00:26:52
We need to let go of negative feelings, thoughts you know that

00:27:01
aren't serving us, or negative projections on someone else,

00:27:06
because you can't be in a higher frequency, you can't hold a

00:27:11
higher vibration if you've got this negative self-talk and

00:27:15
negative projection going out into the world.

00:27:19
And we're all being pushed right now, whether we like it or not,

00:27:23
to release and let go of stuff that no longer serves us.

00:27:30
So, whether we like it or not, we can come struggling.

00:27:36
You know we can be dragged along the road or we can say

00:27:40
look, you know, I'm at a point in our evolutionary process I

00:27:44
really need to work through something in myself.

00:27:46
It's not serving me and it's not going to support my

00:27:49
evolutionary process and, whether you think in that regard

00:27:52
or not, it's not going to support your daily life and your

00:27:56
experiences and what that creates for you.

00:27:59
So the sooner we all get on the bandwagon and just, you know,

00:28:05
gently look at ourselves and start finding strategies to

00:28:09
support ourself, to clear, the sooner we will find the

00:28:14
synchronicity of life.

00:28:15
You know life just flows more.

00:28:16
We're not getting caught upronicity of life.

00:28:17
You know life just flows more.

00:28:17
We're not getting caught up in the reeds.

00:28:20
You know we're just flowing, going with the flow of life, and

00:28:24
you know that's creating more positive experiences, even

00:28:28
though there's a lot of chaos still going on around the world.

00:28:31
You know we can sort of stabilize ourselves through that

00:28:34
process.

00:28:37
But the reason why I bring up the fifth dimensional aspect and

00:28:41
the frequencies that are hitting the planet more than

00:28:45
ever before, if we stepped out of our comfort zone and started

00:28:52
working more energetically with ourselves and finding energy

00:28:58
tools to support our process and support other strategies we're

00:29:02
working with, because there are lots of strategies we can work

00:29:05
with.

00:29:05
But energy and working with energy that anyone can do,

00:29:12
anyone can learn some energy procedures, but starting to

00:29:16
shift our mindset that we're more than a physical body.

00:29:19
You know and I think I touched on that really, in essence,

00:29:22
we're just energy in mass form.

00:29:25
I think I even said that.

00:29:26
You know we're a hologram.

00:29:28
You know the planet is a hologram.

00:29:30
Science has stated this we are holographic, which makes us

00:29:36
quite malleable.

00:29:37
Really, if we look at ourselves in that way, that well, if our

00:29:41
thoughts and feelings creates a block in our energy field, which

00:29:46
, if we keep thinking that, it then builds and builds and then

00:29:50
becomes more mass in our body and then creates a physical

00:29:55
block and symptom, then you know you're more open to thinking

00:30:01
about okay, well, I'll give you know, an energy system a go, but

00:30:04
, more importantly, empower yourself to learn an energy

00:30:09
system or energy procedures to support yourself, not being

00:30:13
reliant on anyone.

00:30:15
But it's always good to experience.

00:30:17
Well, what, what does that look like?

00:30:19
What does that feel like?

00:30:21
And you know this is why I work with Transference Healing, not

00:30:25
only for myself to keep clearing my own patterning in myself and

00:30:30
supporting clients, but somehow , you know, in my psyche.

00:30:39
You know, 20 years ago I knew working with energy was going to

00:30:43
be important part of my life and it doesn't matter what you

00:30:46
do for a living.

00:30:46
To be honest, you know you don't have to be, you know, an

00:30:50
energy practitioner.

00:30:51
It's really trying to throw out the gauntlet to people out of

00:30:55
all the other strategies that we can learn and all the self-help

00:30:59
tools that are out there.

00:31:00
If there was a time to really say, well, I'm going to learn a

00:31:04
few energy procedures for myself , it would be now, yeah, okay.

00:31:08
So that's really why I work with energy and it's definitely

00:31:14
something you you know it doesn't have to be transmits

00:31:17
healing if people don't resonate with transmits healing.

00:31:20
But obviously I work with transmits healing and I know

00:31:23
that it supports people and I know it can create rapid process

00:31:28
of change.

00:31:29
And I think the key difference when you're working

00:31:31
energetically on the body versus you you know observing our

00:31:35
thought patterns, working with meditation, going to therapy,

00:31:40
talking it out they're all important.

00:31:44
You know going to the gym and releasing how we're feeling

00:31:47
through the gym you know those are all important things.

00:31:49
But when you're working with energy and tapping into your own

00:31:56
body's energetic system, you can create a more rapid process

00:32:03
of change.

00:32:03
Okay, energy for yourself is you can dissolve old emotional

00:32:15
pain through the energy body and that creates a decoding process

00:32:21
where deeply held memories are cleared and then through that

00:32:28
process we lift our vibration and we we can dissolve something

00:32:34
so quite significant over time.

00:32:37
And we know we've done it, we know we've cleared in ourself

00:32:42
because suddenly whatever we were creating in our life that

00:32:47
was negative, we know we've dissolved it, when we no longer

00:32:52
are playing that out or there's no emotional charge when we find

00:32:57
ourselves in a situation.

00:32:58
So you know, really my charter is to get people to experience

00:33:05
energy but, most importantly, get empowered for themselves to

00:33:10
work on that level of their being, outside all the other

00:33:13
strategies.

00:33:14
And it just so happens that I work with transference, healing,

00:33:17
um, because I know how powerful it is and I know it works okay

00:33:23
and I've seen people clear major trauma.

00:33:27
Can I?

00:33:28
Um, I'm gonna be a translator because I think, as I think I

00:33:36
say every week, sometimes people might think, whoa, don't know

00:33:40
if that's true, right, so let's just put this into perspective,

00:33:45
uh, it, or a perspective that might be, um might make more.

00:33:51
I'm not saying it doesn't make sense, but you know, people, we

00:33:57
forget when we're in these circles that sometimes people

00:34:00
outside of these circles might just think this is just a whole

00:34:04
bunch of woo, woo.

00:34:07
I say I think I say this every week, every time we talk.

00:34:10
That's okay, but here's the translation, but here's the

00:34:22
translation.

00:34:22
So you talked about energy blocks and you talked about how

00:34:24
they get stuck in the body and how the energy doesn't flow

00:34:25
properly, right, and we know that this is true.

00:34:27
If you think about it from a health perspective, right, even

00:34:34
when you're stressed, you get tense and your muscles go hard.

00:34:39
Right, that is energy being stored in the body not flowing.

00:34:46
Our heart starts working harder , we get blood pressure, we

00:34:53
don't breathe properly.

00:34:55
These are all places where the energy is being blocked right,

00:35:00
and these things start to build and they can cause all sorts of

00:35:05
health implications.

00:35:06
In fact, a guest that um recently had on, we were talking

00:35:11
about how we store memories and emotions in the body and if we

00:35:15
don't remove them, they can cause um serious illness.

00:35:22
Um, so when we're talking about energy, that's, that's the

00:35:26
reality of it, that's our human reality of it.

00:35:29
Right, that's what the energy is, and we are energy, like it's

00:35:33
been proven.

00:35:34
Our heart needs electricity.

00:35:36
We've got electricity in our bodies to keep us alive.

00:35:41
So we are energy.

00:35:43
We live in a, in a magnetic field.

00:35:47
That's also, you know, proof, we've had proof of that.

00:35:52
So, like, energy is not this kind of made up fancy thing.

00:35:57
Yes, we are becoming more aware of its power, because

00:36:02
previously, well, you know, as if you look at the recent times

00:36:08
of human evolution, probably even over the last.

00:36:10
I mean, I don't know, historically, the last 100, 150,

00:36:14
200 years, medicine has been the thing right and we've gone.

00:36:19
How can we use medicine to make us better because we're getting

00:36:23
sick?

00:36:24
But now we have these other modalities that are coming

00:36:30
through, like transference healing, um, that are allowing

00:36:38
us to work on that energetic level with the same healing

00:36:45
benefits, in fact better healing benefits.

00:36:49
And I'm certainly not going to, I'm not going to go.

00:36:52
You know everyone.

00:36:53
Give up your medic medicine.

00:36:55
That's not, that's not for me to say.

00:36:58
People could, but people need to make informed decisions, they

00:37:01
need to try new things, um.

00:37:03
Well, you know, we have so much , so much more information now,

00:37:09
um, and uh, yeah, I feel like it's putting, putting, putting

00:37:13
these things back into our own hands as well, using our

00:37:17
intuition, using like, like we're powerful beings and I

00:37:23
think that we've had that kind of I don't know dampened down.

00:37:27
We're not encouraged to tap into that stuff.

00:37:31
It's all been very 3d, hasn't it ?

00:37:33
Yeah, and and it basically we had the knowledge and we had the

00:37:40
power to do all the things I just mentioned working with

00:37:43
energy and clearing blocks and clearing deep, deep rooted um

00:37:48
cellular memory.

00:37:49
Back in the lantian numerian times, we were doing that and

00:37:53
then, you know, we started to play with things and we started

00:37:56
to decide well, you know, let's create this medicine over here

00:38:00
and over time, we became disconnected to our inner

00:38:04
knowledge and wisdom.

00:38:05
So we've been through a massive cycle of dissension and

00:38:09
experiential lives working with medicine and there will always

00:38:15
be a place for medicine.

00:38:16
But medicine will evolve and how we use let's call it western

00:38:21
medicine term, western medicine , it'll always be a place for it

00:38:24
and that's going to evolve.

00:38:27
But really what's happening is now we're all awakening to the

00:38:30
fact that we do have more power within us.

00:38:34
We do have the ability to energetically work with

00:38:39
ourselves and we just need to understand well, I'm using the

00:38:42
term work with some energy procedures to create that for

00:38:47
ourselves.

00:38:48
Okay, so really it's about everyone's going through

00:38:53
awakening process and there's millions and millions and

00:38:55
millions of people that work energetically on themselves not

00:38:58
necessarily, you know, practitioners or teachers.

00:39:01
They're already tapping into that understanding and I think

00:39:07
the key difference really is, as you say, it's not about not

00:39:12
taking your medicine.

00:39:13
It's saying well, that's treating a symptom.

00:39:16
Taking your medicine, it's saying well, that's treating a

00:39:21
symptom.

00:39:22
When you're working energetically, you're really

00:39:23
tapping in to the core, the deep level core of what really is,

00:39:28
is creating whatever.

00:39:30
You know the emotion or you know the belief, and you're

00:39:34
tapping in on that level and you're resolving and dissolving

00:39:38
it and transmuting it.

00:39:39
Yeah, root level, and that's really the difference.

00:39:44
But the other key factor is being becoming more open to

00:39:49
working with energy, and I always preface this is not about

00:39:52
me building a client base of you know lots of people coming

00:39:57
to have energy healing sessions.

00:39:58
People need to experience it.

00:40:00
To say, light bulb moment oh my God, that was amazing.

00:40:04
How do I learn to do that?

00:40:14
For to then say I now have had an experience of how working

00:40:20
with energy can support my life and support positive change,

00:40:26
support clearing whatever I need to clear, and often it's so

00:40:29
subconscious we don't even know what we're clearing and that's

00:40:32
perfect, as it is to say well, I'm going to step in and I'm

00:40:36
going to empower myself.

00:40:37
I'm going to pick up some energy tools as another strategy

00:40:41
in addition to all the other things I do in my life and I'm

00:40:45
going to start working in this way.

00:40:47
Right, so really, this is where my passion is to make more

00:40:52
people aware of.

00:40:53
You are more than capable of doing this for yourself.

00:40:56
And it's not about changing certain you know things you're

00:41:00
doing.

00:41:00
It's about adding to that and working with yourself on a whole

00:41:05
another level.

00:41:08
Because, nadine, I'm sure in your life and everything you've

00:41:11
done and all the work you've done on yourself, you could

00:41:15
probably find something in your life you think, wow, I used to

00:41:18
feel this way about this situation, I used to have this

00:41:22
feeling come up, but it's gone, it's cleared, right.

00:41:26
Yeah, it's cleared.

00:41:27
And I'll use the analogy.

00:41:29
You know, I've had situations.

00:41:31
There might be someone in my life that really triggers me,

00:41:36
right?

00:41:36
Someone in my life that really triggers me, right?

00:41:43
So what do I do?

00:41:43
I go inward and I reflect on well, you know, do I do that too

00:41:45
?

00:41:45
And if I'm not doing whatever that person's doing that

00:41:47
triggers me, maybe I did that in a previous life and I've worked

00:41:50
through that, so I might have a bit more unconditional love

00:41:52
towards the person.

00:41:53
I felt they really, you know, they're really annoying me or

00:41:57
they're not resonating with me or creating a trigger.

00:41:59
But then the next thing I do is run energy on myself to clear

00:42:06
whatever that karmic, pain or relationship is with that other

00:42:11
person.

00:42:12
And when I've come through a process and found, wow, I can be

00:42:17
with that person now and I'm not triggered by them.

00:42:21
There's a real positive emotion and wisdom that bursts by

00:42:30
saying, suddenly I don't have to go through my life being

00:42:34
triggered by other people.

00:42:35
If I, you know, if I find there is someone that triggers me and

00:42:38
I just keep working on myself and keep clearing, clearing,

00:42:40
clearing, at some point I can meet that person and they might

00:42:44
not become my best friend, but I can be with that person and

00:42:50
feel I can have a conversation and it's just like a normal

00:42:53
conversation.

00:42:54
I'm not like ready to.

00:42:56
I guess that is like a perfect example of flow, right, the

00:43:02
relationship.

00:43:02
There's something that's stuck, the energy's stuck, and so you

00:43:08
go in, you do the process and you, um, dissolve that energy or

00:43:14
you release that energy and so when you see them again, there's

00:43:19
more flow, right, because you're not holding.

00:43:22
Yeah, so you can kind of just like and you would never be

00:43:26
fussed about it and guess what the magic that creates.

00:43:29
So I, I, I say to people you've got, if you run energy on

00:43:32
yourself and you keep working yourself and you keep clearing

00:43:35
and clearing and you step back into a situation with someone

00:43:38
you just don't resonate with, they really get your back up,

00:43:45
but you can clear something.

00:43:47
You step back into them.

00:43:48
You have changed.

00:43:50
Well, you don't think that other person doesn't feel that

00:43:57
Because your response to them has changed.

00:44:00
Yeah, guess what you might actually find, and I can hand on

00:44:05
heart, confirm they, their response to you also changes and

00:44:11
whatever dynamic was going on between you dissolves and once

00:44:18
you might never be like best, bestest, closest friends.

00:44:22
You can walk into those relationships with ease and

00:44:26
grace and have a harmonious interaction, which means you're

00:44:31
not depleting energy to a situation and you're able to

00:44:35
hold, you know, your vibration and, as you say, walk through

00:44:40
life with more ease and grace and harmony and peace.

00:44:43
And that's really where we all want to get to, isn't it?

00:44:45
We all want to just have a peaceful, harmonious life that

00:44:49
flows and then an ideal we want to get on with everyone.

00:44:52
We want everyone to get on with us, you know.

00:44:54
So these are like the types of wisdoms that when we truly work

00:45:00
on ourselves generally, when we choose to start looking outside

00:45:05
the square, thinking outside the box and maybe practicing some

00:45:09
energy procedures on ourselves, we really, really create

00:45:13
situations where wisdom births, because situations dissolve and

00:45:19
suddenly we feel liberated, not only in that relation, but

00:45:24
liberated in ourselves, we free ourselves up, we free our energy

00:45:28
up and suddenly we're not playing out something in our

00:45:31
mind about someone or something.

00:45:33
You know, we've truly transmuted that and transformed to that

00:45:38
and through that process, our vibration of our body and

00:45:41
consciousness lifts and we feel lighter.

00:45:44
We all want to feel light, don't we?

00:45:46
We feel more positive.

00:45:48
We all want to feel more positive.

00:45:50
We don't want to get stuck down in negativity, do we?

00:45:52
And from a spiritual perspective, you know, we're

00:45:56
supporting our evolution into a higher state of being, right and

00:46:01
consciousness.

00:46:01
And what does that look like?

00:46:02
Well, if I'm not getting caught up in negative thoughts and

00:46:07
feelings towards someone else because they've triggered me and

00:46:10
I'm just generally walking through life and harmoniously,

00:46:13
I'm releasing whatever I need to release in relation to someone

00:46:17
else and, more importantly, in relation to what's coming up for

00:46:21
me regarding that, then we're really supporting a more

00:46:28
unconditional state of being and more compassion.

00:46:30
Because even if we don't resonate with someone and we've

00:46:35
cleared the fuel of whatever dynamic was playing out, we can

00:46:42
feel more unconditional love, not only towards ourself but

00:46:45
towards other people, and we can feel more compassion when we

00:46:48
see someone else playing something else.

00:46:50
Yeah, I used to be there but I dissolved that you can feel

00:46:55
where that person is in their journey and you can hold that

00:46:58
more state of unconditional way of being and really, from a

00:47:05
humanity perspective, that's really where we're all being

00:47:09
pushed towards.

00:47:10
You know, getting back to that high Lemurian life consciousness

00:47:15
where we're healing ourselves in the moment and we're living

00:47:18
in harmony with everything.

00:47:20
You know, that's really where we're driving at.

00:47:23
Yeah, yeah, wow.

00:47:29
So it's all about healing the self, isn't it?

00:47:32
And through healing the self create, we're creating a new

00:47:35
reality, we're creating new experiences and then good things

00:47:39
keep coming our way.

00:47:40
But the bonus really is when we , the more we work on ourselves,

00:47:44
the more we lift our vibration, the more we hold a higher state

00:47:49
of consciousness and higher levels of perception and

00:47:54
understanding On a universal level.

00:47:58
When we heal ourselves, we are actually contributing to

00:48:02
humanity's collective evolution and healing that's taking place

00:48:07
right now.

00:48:07
So the more people and there's hundreds of millions of people

00:48:11
that are doing this but imagine if there were, you know, another

00:48:14
hundred or millions more people on the planet, or everyone on

00:48:19
the planet really working on themselves, really clearing

00:48:23
their own self-worth or pain, imagine what the environment and

00:48:32
world we'd be living in.

00:48:34
You know, we could create that tomorrow if we were all doing

00:48:38
this right and millions of people are and holding a

00:48:41
vibration for the planet and for other people.

00:48:44
But that's why I'm really passionate about energy, because

00:48:47
it's a really important tool right now for everyone to really

00:48:52
work in clear.

00:48:53
And you can really work in clear at a rapid rate, deep

00:48:58
levels of patterning, you know.

00:49:00
You can really work through pain and energy blocks that are

00:49:08
forming in the body and work through symptomatic pain that's

00:49:11
already, you know, taken hold.

00:49:14
And the knock-on effect of that is by clearing internally and

00:49:19
releasing ourselves from karmic cycles in our life, that Ferris

00:49:24
wheel we start to co-create, create.

00:49:27
We start to co-create, create the intention or reality that we

00:49:34
are striving to create.

00:49:36
That for most of us, we're stuck in that Ferris wheel,

00:49:38
reliving old patterns versus stepping out of that Ferris

00:49:43
wheel and starting to create on a whole new level.

00:49:47
And energy now is playing an important role in that because

00:49:52
we really need to clear so much and working energetically can

00:49:56
can support that process to clear faster.

00:49:59
Yeah, I think it's really important.

00:50:02
Well, a lot.

00:50:03
All of the things you've said are really important and like I

00:50:06
could probably talk to you all day, um, but some things that

00:50:10
popped up just then are like that um time, and there are

00:50:18
layers, so like it does take time, but the starting point is

00:50:22
that awareness.

00:50:24
Right, it's like just the being curious about why did that

00:50:31
happen, or what was I thinking Like, and just sort of trying to

00:50:35
become more aware of what is going on, because I think that

00:50:38
some people focus their attention so externally that

00:50:44
they're just not practiced in going internal.

00:50:47
Or, like you know, we have the I'm, I'm in there all the time,

00:50:52
so I can't imagine what it would be not like not to, but

00:50:57
building an awareness of what's going on is is really important.

00:51:01
But, um, I wanted to sort of just um, and before you say the

00:51:07
next step, yeah, and then wanting to change, yeah, yeah,

00:51:13
being being aware, seeing something, well, that's not

00:51:17
quite a great trade.

00:51:19
Maybe you know there's an opportunity to refine an aspect

00:51:22
of myself, but then wanting to change it, right, yes,

00:51:27
definitely, um, and I was just, I was just thinking when you

00:51:31
were talking about like that, yeah, the layers and there's,

00:51:36
it's a process and all of us, you know, all of a sudden you'll

00:51:39
kind of feel like you're, you take those leaps and then you

00:51:46
think that you're there and then you realize actually that was

00:51:48
just like the outer surface, but I was.

00:51:52
It was, um, I can't think of specifically, uh, an example,

00:51:59
but I do know that personally, I've had points where I've it's

00:52:04
been like there's actually a fear I'll say fear of letting go

00:52:12
of a certain thought or feeling or something, because that's

00:52:21
mine, you know, it's who I am and what would I be without that

00:52:26
.

00:52:26
Or I don't know how to be something different.

00:52:30
So that's, yeah, a really interesting.

00:52:32
Just on that, you triggered a thought for me many, many years

00:52:35
ago when I really started to want to earnestly clear my own

00:52:41
patterning.

00:52:42
I remember driving in my car thinking, oh, but I don't know

00:52:48
if I want to let that go.

00:52:49
Yes, I, and it was quite an a light bulb moment.

00:52:53
Well, how interesting that I want to let it go, but a part of

00:52:57
me doesn't want to let it go, just hanging on, hanging on, and

00:53:00
I can't remember the specific thing it was and I'm sorry that

00:53:05
I can't because it would have been intriguing to analyze it.

00:53:08
But I just recall thinking but I like seemingly playing out

00:53:14
this pattern or this emotion, and now I have the option to

00:53:19
clear it.

00:53:19
So what you said.

00:53:20
There is one of the reasons why so many people don't change yeah

00:53:26
, because they actually quite like something, you know,

00:53:29
they're quite attached to it.

00:53:32
A drama, they like drama playing out, they like creating

00:53:36
drama, because if there was no drama, well, maybe I'd be bored.

00:53:39
What am I going to, you know?

00:53:41
Do, yeah, yeah, you know.

00:53:42
So that's a very good point.

00:53:45
Yeah, so, and I think that that's a kind of like a personal

00:53:50
observation where it's like, you know, be aware that that

00:53:56
might happen when you do go in happened to me when I really

00:54:10
wanted to ramp up and think I want to clear these patterns of

00:54:12
behavior.

00:54:12
They're not serving me.

00:54:12
I want to change that.

00:54:13
That's not going to help me evolve spiritually, and you know

00:54:14
my spiritual path, that I've chosen to go on consciously, and

00:54:19
I just, yeah, I just thought, well, how bizarre is that part

00:54:23
of me doesn't want to let that go.

00:54:24
Yeah, I think it's like, um, you know, if it's, if it's

00:54:30
associated with other people and our response to them, and then,

00:54:35
well, if I let that go, then maybe that means that I have to

00:54:41
forgive them, and then I, you know, does that mean that I was

00:54:45
wrong and they were right?

00:54:47
You know there's all of that stuff and you're like, come on

00:54:50
that.

00:54:50
But while you were speaking, just that moment, what it?

00:54:53
What it's actually dawned on me as we were just talking.

00:54:57
There is what we're healing, ultimately, when we're choosing

00:55:04
to let go an identity, of a feeling towards someone else, is

00:55:10
what we're actually doing is dissolving our disconnection

00:55:15
from spirit ultimately, because what we're actually doing is

00:55:20
dissolving an aspect of our identity because we think, well,

00:55:25
no, I'm different to that person over there.

00:55:29
So there's this aspect of we're clearing an identity that we

00:55:34
think is important to us.

00:55:36
But, more importantly, what's really underlying that?

00:55:39
We're clearing our ultimate disconnection to spirit Because,

00:55:43
to be honest, we're all connected, we all are one

00:55:50
ultimately, but we're playing at different consciousness in

00:55:54
human form and we're all playing a different part, so to speak.

00:55:59
And if you go back to that part in uh that you started with

00:56:02
about how our relationships with people can mirror what's

00:56:06
actually going on for us, that's a perfect example, right, I

00:56:09
don't want to let that go.

00:56:10
But it's like, well, you know, that relationship is mirroring

00:56:15
back something that you still need to work on.

00:56:18
If you feel that way about it, correct, they're kind of like

00:56:22
the gifts, aren't they, those things that do trigger you

00:56:25
because they're like oh, here we go, what's that all about?

00:56:30
I think that's probably a good point as well.

00:56:33
Is that those things that do make us feel uncomfortable or

00:56:37
aggravated?

00:56:38
You know, if someone pushes our buttons, they're the places

00:56:43
that we need to go in and go.

00:56:45
Where did that come from?

00:56:47
Why do I actually feel like that?

00:56:48
Yeah, and I think the other thing is in on a, in a, on a

00:56:55
human level, we like a sense of identity, don't we?

00:56:58
Yes, you know, our ego is our identity.

00:57:02
So if, if we're unraveling so many aspects of self, that then

00:57:08
that you and I feel almost one.

00:57:11
Well, our ego wants to identify .

00:57:15
Well, no, I'm different to you, you know.

00:57:17
So it really comes back to that spiritual essence of you know,

00:57:22
we are ultimately one and we're on that journey back to become

00:57:28
one as such, and our ego quite likes playing out, you know,

00:57:36
drama, reality, and I'm more important than you, or you're

00:57:38
more important than me, or whatever.

00:57:40
So it's the ego aspect we're actually breaking down as part

00:57:44
of that process, as well as the patterns and pain we've

00:57:47
experienced past life, this life , that create that identity we

00:57:53
associate with.

00:57:53
So where does this leave us.

00:58:00
Well, we talked about being aware, with a big, long journey

00:58:04
into self-exploration.

00:58:06
Well, being aware, then choosing.

00:58:10
Well, I say I want that over there, I want that as part of my

00:58:14
reality.

00:58:15
Well, if we want that over there, whatever that is, that

00:58:18
could be simply peace, harmony, you know, positive relationship.

00:58:23
Was there something in myself I have to change?

00:58:26
Or could be to do with self-worth, you know, let's use

00:58:29
that as the example identifying.

00:58:31
Well, I'm don't feel I'm worthy .

00:58:34
So then, breaking that down with strategies that you know

00:58:39
we're using already.

00:58:40
But I guess you know, part of today was for me to throw out

00:58:44
the gauntlet and say, yeah, you've got to start thinking

00:58:50
outside the square, You've got to start integrating more with a

00:58:54
fifth-dimensional consciousness and reality that we are in and

00:58:58
the way that you do that is starting to see yourself as

00:59:02
energy consciousness in mass form.

00:59:05
It sounds a bit less sexy, doesn't it?

00:59:08
And that you have the ability to change anything you want and

00:59:14
create anything you want.

00:59:16
But it really starts with you have to dissolve this old

00:59:21
pattern, old beliefs, old thought patterns, and you have

00:59:26
to clear it on the deepest level of your energy system, dna

00:59:31
level, subatomic level.

00:59:34
And the only way you can do it and the most rapid way you can

00:59:39
do that is by working with energy.

00:59:42
And I really feel I want to throw the gauntlet out at people

00:59:46
and say you've got to start giving it a go.

00:59:49
And you know, know, I put my transplants healing hat.

00:59:51
I know transplants healing hat works and whether you know

00:59:55
someone wants to, you know, call me and ask me more about those

00:59:58
types of things.

00:59:59
Or you know there's a whole host of transplants healing

01:00:04
practitioner teachers around the world.

01:00:06
You know, know, you can go to the official website and find

01:00:09
someone in your geography.

01:00:11
But I mean, we all work remotely.

01:00:14
But just give it a go.

01:00:16
If you've got something in your life really playing out and it's

01:00:20
really painful and you're really trying to create change

01:00:24
and you're feeling stuck, give I'm sayingplants healing hack,

01:00:31
give transplants healing a go.

01:00:32
I know it will support you to create the real change you're

01:00:41
seeking.

01:00:42
And it all starts from the subconscious level of your being

01:00:46
and energetically, and then thought is into your physical,

01:00:50
the way you feel emotionally, and then that repels that into

01:00:53
your external reality.

01:00:55
Yeah so, yeah.

01:00:57
So I guess I'm saying to people give energy system.

01:01:01
I'd love people to give transplants healing go.

01:01:03
I'm available, but we have, you know, teacher practitioners

01:01:06
around the world and and that's my message today If you really

01:01:10
want to change something we've talked about the process Empower

01:01:16
yourself to run energy on yourself and give it a go,

01:01:19
because now more than ever, the universe is supporting people to

01:01:23
work on that level and really get to that point where we're

01:01:28
remembering, we can move comfortably through this

01:01:32
evolution that we're going through.

01:01:34
Absolutely.

01:01:35
We don't have to struggle through what's going on in lives

01:01:39
.

01:01:39
We can clear something faster by working in this new way and,

01:01:45
by the way, we were all doing it in the Murian Lentus times.

01:01:49
We just went into a dissension process and forgot, okay, and

01:01:55
now the universe is pushing.

01:01:57
So well, we let you play, we've let you play with medicine and

01:02:01
tinkering with this and tinkering that now we're

01:02:03
bringing you back full circle and we're waking you up to

01:02:07
remind you you have everything within you.

01:02:10
You just need the knowledge and tools and procedures to start

01:02:15
supporting yourself and empowering yourself to self-heal

01:02:19
and clear whatever you need to clear to create the life you

01:02:22
want to create.

01:02:24
Yeah, um, I think that obviously um do.

01:02:29
Do we have any?

01:02:30
That's kind of like a close right closing message.

01:02:33
Um, so we're going to put your link into the notes, as we

01:02:38
always do um and I think also the, the um dragon power

01:02:45
procedure that we shared.

01:02:46
You, you had a um, a procedure that you took people through um

01:02:52
in a recording that supported last month's um.

01:02:57
I'm going to be giving some more free.

01:02:59
Yeah, I'm gonna.

01:03:01
That's a perfect example of energy, like absolutely,

01:03:05
absolutely.

01:03:06
And so what I'm trying to do yeah, absolutely.

01:03:10
So to keep breaking down people's perception about, oh,

01:03:15
running, I can't run energy on myself.

01:03:17
I can't do that.

01:03:18
You, you're special if you can do that over there.

01:03:21
We all have that ability.

01:03:23
You just need to have the knowledge.

01:03:23
So, to keep breaking down perceptions on what running

01:03:29
energy means, today I'm going to be providing, in a separate

01:03:34
recording, some more transplants , healing procedures to work

01:03:39
with, right, so now people are starting to build a kit bag of

01:03:43
energy procedures they can work with in their own life, and I'll

01:03:47
also explain well why would you use this one over this one.

01:03:50
And if you listen to the Dragon Power separate recording, I do a

01:03:55
bit of preamble why you would use it, but we talk about it in

01:03:59
length in the main podcast recording.

01:04:03
I will be providing some more transplants, healing procedures,

01:04:07
right, yeah.

01:04:08
And so all I'm saying to people it's free, got, it's not no

01:04:12
one's charging you for this, it's free.

01:04:14
Why wouldn't you give this a go ?

01:04:15
Why wouldn't you, if you've got questions, pick up the phone or

01:04:20
send an email, ask questions that are most relevant to you

01:04:25
and your circumstance, and I can walk you through well what this

01:04:28
is, how you can support your own process, and let me give you

01:04:32
some tools to support that and I'll give a free consultation

01:04:35
around that.

01:04:36
And then the next step beyond that is well, have an experience

01:04:41
.

01:04:41
Find someone myself or someone.

01:04:44
Have an experience, or you might be working with an energy

01:04:48
healer.

01:04:48
Already outside transmits healing, you know.

01:04:51
Keep having those experiences and honestly see how it takes

01:04:56
you through a big shift and change and transformation over

01:05:00
time, if not immediately.

01:05:01
Some people can make profound shifts in one session because

01:05:05
they're so ready for it.

01:05:07
So, yes, so the recording will give people some additional

01:05:13
energy tools to work with.

01:05:14
Right, perfect.

01:05:17
Thank you, laverne, for another very insightful um guide to

01:05:22
universal living episode.

01:05:25
I'm looking forward to part five.

01:05:27
So lovely to work with you, nadine.

01:05:30
Yeah, it's a pleasure.

01:05:31
You always ask the good questions.

01:05:33
It's funny.

01:05:34
I don't know what my next content's going to be until like

01:05:38
the night before, day before I'm doing this session, and in

01:05:42
the last couple of days it's become very clear what I'm going

01:05:45
to be covering in the next session, which I'm not going to

01:05:48
touch on right now, but that's how it's working for me.

01:05:52
I don't know what I'm going to be covering until, literally, as

01:05:57
I'm just about to record a current topic.

01:06:02
Yeah, great, and that's how it's playing out.

01:06:04
I like that.

01:06:05
And that's not only exciting for me.

01:06:06
It really means I'm tapping in creatively what's relevant right

01:06:11
now.

01:06:12
The right listeners will find this podcast and hopefully

01:06:17
they'll test the theory of what we talk about on these podcasts.

01:06:23
You know, when you test something, you really shouldn't

01:06:27
poo poo something, should you?

01:06:28
You've got to test the theory, you've got to test should you?

01:06:30
You've got to test it.

01:06:30
You've got to test it.

01:06:31
You've got to test it and then discern from yourself, discern

01:06:35
from your own wisdom.

01:06:36
Well, did that resonate for me?

01:06:38
Well, that procedure didn't, for whatever reason.

01:06:40
But oh, I'm glad I listened to that and practiced that

01:06:43
procedure over there, because that worked for me and that

01:06:46
resonated for me.

01:06:46
So I'm going to run with that, that tool.

01:06:48
Yeah, that's really.

01:06:50
All I'm trying to do is create different experiences for people

01:06:52
and find what works for one person may not work for another

01:06:57
and something else might work for that person.

01:06:58
That didn't work for that won't work for that other person, so

01:07:02
to speak.

01:07:02
We know what you mean, all right.

01:07:08
Well, I look forward to whatever.

01:07:11
Whatever comes your way in next month's episode.

01:07:15
Thanks, laverne.

01:07:16
Thank you, love your work.

01:07:18
See you next time.

01:07:19
Love your work to self-love.

01:07:22
Thank you.

01:07:23
Mutual love, mutual love, sharing it around.

01:07:26
Bye for now.