Part 5 Guide To Universal Living: Weaving The Essence of Spirituality Into The Fabric of Daily Life

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Speaker 1: Hello, hello, it's Nadine here, and I'm here with

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this week's episode of Life, health and the Universe, and

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it's week three of the month.

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Jeez, it flies around, doesn't it?

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So we're here, we're joined with Laverne for our Guide to

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Universal Living and we're up to part five.

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So, without further ado, hello Laverne, hello Nadine I'm trying

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to deepen my voice because every time I start this show, I

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seem to go a bit squeaky on you, and I'll share this.

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Nadine and I have a quick chat before we start the show, and I

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said I keep working through my Chiron.

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Each time I come on the show.

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I'm a Chiron and Pisces, and so it's really interesting.

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Every time I join this show, my throat plays up, so I'm smiling

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at myself as I join this, a guide to universal living.

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So today we're actually going to be talking about my perception

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of spirituality in the 21st century and, nadine, welcome you

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interjecting with that as I take us on a bit of a journey of

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how I see spirituality in the 21st century, because, you know,

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to me spirituality means different things for different

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people, for different people, and different people are

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experiencing their spirituality in a different way.

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But now more than ever, there is an awakening on the planet

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We've touched on this in previous shows and there's this

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real awakening process as we awaken individually and

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collectively.

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It's sometimes hard to navigate and know how we can help

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ourselves and make sense of it all.

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But I want to preface this by stating it really doesn't matter

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what landscape you live in, what experiences are your trials

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, your tribulations, your faith, your belief system, your

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religion, if any.

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The true essence of spirituality is a universal

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principle of teachings and it goes beyond religion, it goes

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beyond politics and it goes beyond politics and it goes

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beyond gender, and really it's a journey of self-discovery of

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who we are and who we see ourselves as.

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And then it's a journey of understanding that we are all

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connected.

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And more and more I love the fact that so many people are

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talking to, and more and more I love the fact that so many

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people are talking to.

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You know, we are all connected, we are all part of the whole,

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we are all one For each of us.

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That definition of journey of spirituality and coming to a

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state of oneness.

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For some they may still struggle with that when they see

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how humans, we respond to each other in daily life, but my

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belief system believes that we are one and that we are on a

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journey of self-discovery of ourselves and each other and

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it's that reconnection with ourself and it's our

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reconnection with each other and , beyond this reality, any

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barriers that we might feel towards spirituality are more

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likely to drop away.

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So it's really well, where do we begin?

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You know where do we begin this conversation?

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And, um, it was something you said in a text to me.

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I said, oh yeah, I hadn't really thought about taking that

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approach because I wasn't going to take the approach.

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And she said you really should talk about your own journey,

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laverne.

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And you know, sort of I changed tact after you sent that text

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because when I look back and reflect back on my own personal

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journey over the last 34 years, you know there will be aspects

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to it Some may find it resonates for them and where someone else

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is on the journey of their own path of understanding what

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spirituality means for them.

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But interestingly, before I do that, I stumbled on I don't know

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if you heard of Sat Guru.

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He's an Indian spiritual teacher and he's quite prominent

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on Instagram and there was something I stumbled on that

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really sort of resonated for me.

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I thought I like this, I'm going to introduce this into

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this particular podcast, and he said something along the lines

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that what truly ties us all together is one common thread,

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and he went on to say that that is we all want to be happy, we

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all want to be healthy, we want to care, be careful, we want

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loving relationships with equality, and we want love,

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peace, joy and purpose.

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And then he went on to say which I found even more

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interesting, overriding all these things, we all want

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balance.

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And he said when balance is experienced in our body, we call

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this health and wellness.

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When balance is experienced in our mind, we call this peace and

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joy.

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When balance is experienced in our emotions, we call this love

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and compassion.

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And when balance is experienced in our energy and consciousness

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, we call this blissfulness and ecstasy.

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And balance is experienced in the world around us and we

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experience balance in our connection to it.

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We call this unity.

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And it sort of really resonated for me a lot and I thought well

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, that's a really simple way of experiencing spirituality and

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actually working towards these levels of balance.

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So it felt like it really, in some ways, it encapsulated my

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own journey and it was beautifully summarized in a few

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lines.

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So, from my personal perspective and my spiritual journey, from

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an early age I was interested in finding natural ways to

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maintain a sense of inner balance, good health and

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well-being.

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So I went on exploration through meditation, creative

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visualizations.

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I was working with affirmations in my late teens and twenties

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which really helped me find inner balance.

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And then, over time, I had a desire to dig deeper because,

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you know, I was starting to experience myself and my

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relationship with the world differently.

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So I really wanted to to take the next step in my life and

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explore philosophy and I explored parapsychology, which

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is metaphysics.

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I started to explore energy tools to deepen my understanding

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of myself and the world around me and I even actually embarked

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on I started a degree in holistic kinesiology and halfway

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through that I was sort of in my early 30s at this point.

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It was through that journey, or my journey to that point, that

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I then found Transference Healing.

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But I also want to mention actually, you know, sport

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actually played a really big part in my life and that really

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supported my balance and finding equilibrium, because it's from

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this point that we are able to experience more that inner peace

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and state of harmony.

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But as I travel through you know my journey and, as I said, I

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got to the point that I was studying holistic kinesiology.

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It was at that point I found myself asking bigger questions

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like who am I, why am I here, what is my purpose?

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And it was during this period of my life that I found

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Transcendence Healing and I knew immediately I needed to learn

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about it, which took me on a massive trajectory of my

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personal and spiritual growth through the practice of

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transplants healing.

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So my spiritual journey led me to this point today, where we

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are.

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You know, you and I talk about different things and I really

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see myself today as a global advocate, yes, of Transference

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Healing, because I am a 19-year veteran of the energy system and

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I now find myself in a position that I support others in their

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spiritual awakening and, you know, their pursuit of

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self-healing and self-mastery.

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So, you know, if you asked me 10 , 20, 30 years ago what I'd be

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doing today, I definitely didn't think I'd be doing this.

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You know, I definitely didn't think I'd be, you know,

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compelled to talk about spirituality, compelled to show

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other people ways that they can self-heal and self-master and

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support people through their awakening process.

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There's no way I would have seen myself in this position.

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But, um, you can see, it was a very steady, gradual journey.

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I didn't suddenly wake up one night from a bang on the head

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and decided this is what I needed to do.

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It was a very natural journey.

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Can I ask you?

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So, when I was talking, when we were messaging, and I said I

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think it would be really good for the listeners to hear more

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about you, I think I want, I would love, if you're open to it

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, to hear about the other side of Laverne, because I think that

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for many people and I probably would include, would have

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included myself in this I you kind of have a picture of what

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spiritual people are and probably what you do now.

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Right, that's the picture that people have.

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So, yes, you've had this massive journey over a period of

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time and it's been a process and, depending on what's

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happening in our lives, things click and you're like now I get

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it right, what people have been saying or what I've heard, but

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often I think maybe this was just my experience previously

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you have people who are spiritual, who do the sorts of

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things that you do transference, healing, you know, using

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crystals, reading, reading horoscopes, doing all of those

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things and you have everyone else, but you were the everyone

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else as well.

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You worked in corporate.

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So what I would love to hear is like, because I think, well,

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just because I want to know what it was like, but also like, how

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did you make that shift?

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Like that's a big change, right ?

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How do people respond to you?

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I just think, well, take us back to when you were working in

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the corporate world.

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What?

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Well, you know, I still see myself in the business world.

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Um, in many ways, you know, um, I think the key connection point

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of understanding needs to be more along the lines when you

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say, okay, you know, in your late teens, early 20s, you were

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meditating, you were working with affirmations.

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I was working through that process.

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You know I was.

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You know, in those days I was working in the hotel industry,

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right?

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So really, it was more of a compelling.

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Well, I want to go into my workplace, the best version of

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myself, and so I can be in service to people, albeit in a

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hotel front office desk, you know, greeting people as they

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checked into the hotel, as the example.

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You know, I just wanted to be the best version of myself and

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the way that I found myself doing that is through meditating

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, through working with affirmations and so that I would

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whatever, you know, uh, emotions were coming up.

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For me, you know, as we go through our growing pains,

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through our 20s, trying to identify who we are in our 20s

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and identify who we are in our 30s and identify who we are in

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our 40s, just really the compelling thing was I just

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wanted to be a really good human being, I wanted to be in

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service.

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I feel to try and cut to the chase, you don't have to do what

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I'm doing.

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You can do these things in parallel, because anything you

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do and I've touched on and what I'm going to be talking about,

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which feeds into your question on a whole nother level and

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gives a perspective of what spirituality looks like in the

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21st century and this is what we should, all you know, get

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behind was really I just wanted to be the best human being I

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could possibly be, be in service .

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And being in service doesn't have to be doing.

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What I do through the podcast series and my private practice

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you know I do work in the business world still is to find

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what that spiritual essence of self is in one's own life.

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And if you're in the business world is, how can I apply that

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to my job, to my role, to the people I connect with in the

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business.

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You know, if I'm a leader in the business and I touched on

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this in one of the podcasts, I think it may have been the very

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first one we ever did together I don't have to be professing.

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You know, spirituality in the context of energy and

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consciousness.

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If I'm a leader in the business world and I have really got a

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strong connection with myself and that connection out into my

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team, to me that's an act of spirituality.

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Whatever that journey is and I'm going to be talking about

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different examples shortly we can all do that.

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It's not all about everyone.

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Moving out of the business world and becoming spiritual

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teachers is about being where you are in the world.

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You know, whether you're an architect, ceo, salesperson,

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admin person, whatever role you're playing in in the world

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is how can I be in service in within that role?

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And I'm going to talk to that in more detail.

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Okay, because I believe people awaken to their spirituality in

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their own time and when they are ready to take the next step,

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they'll step more into what spirituality means for them.

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Now we've talked about my journey, so it's really

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important that we don't compare ourselves with others and well,

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the verb must be more spiritual because she's doing these things

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I'm less spiritual because I'm in the corporate world.

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Well, I'm hoping this podcast will poo-poo that.

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I'm also a firm believer that we can express and experience our

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spirituality in many ways.

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So there's not one way, there's not one path.

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We must find our spirituality in a way that resonates for us.

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So what does that look like you ?

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For me, I see acts of spirituality everywhere, all the

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time.

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So my journey is an example of quite a practical practical in

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many ways in terms of approach.

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But my perspective of spirituality in the 21st century

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is broader than we generally would associate what

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spirituality is, because we often associate spirituality, as

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you know, visiting a physical place of worship, you know, such

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as a church, basilica, mosque, temple or similar, we often

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associate with spirituality and the type of work that I'm doing.

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But more than ever, there's a practice of spirituality that we

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can find outside these traditional houses of worship.

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And it's interesting, it was only the other day I stumbled on

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a quote by Rumi and he said I looked in the temples, the

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churches and mosques.

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I found the divine within me.

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So you know, let me give some examples of how I see the

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practice of spirituality in the 21st century and one of the most

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fundamental ones that I see regularly is acts of kindness.

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You know, these acts of kindness , to me, are the best act of

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spirituality, or spiritual practice, because acts of

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kindness tend to be spontaneous, don't they?

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They're in the moment and they're, in that moment, acts of

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compassion towards another human being.

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So if that's not spirituality, I don't know what is is when you

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see an opportunity to offer an act of kindness, then to me

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you're practicing spirituality.

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An aspect, an essence of spirituality is, you know,

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compassion towards another human being.

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You know, because it's not premeditated, that it's pure,

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it's an instinctual act of love and this is an attribute of the

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highest teachings for attainment we can bestow ourselves.

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So when I look at examples of active kindness, it could be

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simply helping an elderly person across the road, or it could be

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a gesture of a smile or kind word when you see a stranger or

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someone you know that is struggling in their life, and

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that kind word can lift that person's human spirit just when

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they really need it, need it.

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And you know, I guess the bigger version of acts of kindness is

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when we you know, when we see a catastrophe going on in the

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world, how quickly you see humanity, a sense of humanity

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that wants to reach out and help another in some way.

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You know, to me it's very compelling attributes for me of

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what spirituality really is.

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So when I see these actions around me, to me they are subtle

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, often they go unnoticed, often they're unacknowledged if

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that's a word, I think so but for me they are absolutely

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essences of spirituality and what spirituality teaches.

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So, beyond the simple act of kindness that we can all

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practice in daily life, and if that's all we do, to me we're

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contributing to the world and humanity were contributing to

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the world and humanity.

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But you can see other acts of spirituality in daily rituals.

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You know I talked about meditation, yoga, martial arts.

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You know you could name a whole host of different modalities.

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These are spiritual acts.

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People that do these things are more conscious of this.

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But whether you're more mainstream in any of these areas

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, what the human nature is doing is really accessing their inner

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nature and they're looking at how they respond to life and

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they're using yoga practice or martial arts or meditation to

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support that process of clearing of whatever that you know is

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coming up for them.

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And, and you know, these practices are beautiful ways to

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to work through what we need to work through.

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You know I sit in nature and I'm in awe of the earth and the

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natural beauty that surrounds us .

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And when I do, I'm often reminded of the amazing human

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beings who are conservationists of our planet.

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And you know they're not only protecting the planet and

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aspects of the planet, it's about protecting flora, it's

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about protecting the animal kingdom.

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So we're a greater example of spirituality.

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And whilst most of us aren't, you know, actively

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conservationists, you know we don't go out and do that for a

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living.

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You know it reminds me that we can all play our own part in

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that, no matter how small.

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And for me it would be going into my garden and nurturing my

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garden and creating beauty and nurturing the soil and feeding

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the soil so the plants can grow.

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And if I don't have a garden, well, it might be that I've got

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some potted plants around the house and nurturing nature

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through that way.

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But you know we walk through life and more and more we're

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becoming more conscious about the impact we have on the planet

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, which we are connected to.

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We are part of the planet, the planet is part of us.

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So we all have a way that we can contribute by just being

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conscious.

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Well, what is my imprint on the planet as I walk my path, and

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it could be simply the products we buy.

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You know, making sure we pick up our rubbish and dealt with in

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the most effective way.

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So when we connect with Mother Earth, when we connect with

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nature nature supporting us in coming into balance, the way we

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support nature in our activities are are truly, in my mind, acts

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of spirituality, because you know, it's important part of of

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our state of being.

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And so, you know, when we connect with nature, most people

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may not realize that we're consciously or unconsciously

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connecting with Mother Earth.

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We're connecting with Gaia, we're connecting to the goddess

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aspect of spiritual teachings, which is a whole podcast in

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itself, which hopefully I'll get to at some point.

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So, whether we're conscious of some of the actions and

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activities we are participating in, you know we all can play our

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part.

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Um, you know there are many people that love rituals and

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ceremony.

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You know of all types and forms .

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You know inch that really tap into ancient teachings.

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You know there are shamans.

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You know that really tap into ancient teachings.

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You know there are shamans.

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You know our indigenous communities and the way they

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work with the earth, connecting with the earth and nature.

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You know there are many people that like to go on a journey to

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connect with sacred sites.

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There are a whole group of people that like to preserve

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sacred sites of all kinds and you know that hold a very

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beautiful spiritual symbolism and ancient wisdom that they

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acknowledge and, you know, support and nurture.

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So again, to me this is another example of spirituality.

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So, to finish my story and you know, come full circle as I went

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on my own spiritual journey to this point, it's been incredible

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.

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You know it's been an incredible journey and you know

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I've practiced what I've experienced and learned.

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You know, whether I was in the business world or not, in the

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business world, I still practiced those principal

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teachings, let's call it that.

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You know whether it's through meditation, you know firming

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what I want, invocation through prayer, and that supported my

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journey through business life as well as where I am today.

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So where I'm at in my spiritual journey is that.

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You know, from this point on, it's really about a continuation

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, really, of everything I've experienced and the continuation

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of self-discovery.

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And you know you've heard me talk about.

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You know I'm compelled to learn more about the high tensions of

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spirituality.

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I feel very compelled to learn more about self-healing and

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self-mastery within my mind, body, soul and spirit.

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I feel compelled at this point of my spiritual journey to learn

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about the multi-dimensional aspect of myself, and even

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inter-dimensional aspect of myself, but really learning

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about my divinity, you know, these are the higher teachings

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and the higher expressions of spirituality that we can all

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journey towards if we feel compelled to.

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And so what that looks like for me on a practical level today

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is, you know, on a day-to-day level, it's a continuous

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learning about energy and consciousness and how that plays

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out in daily life.

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It's a learning about alchemy, you know, and how I create

00:27:41
alchemy in my body and consciousness, you know.

00:27:45
For me, it's about learning about the goddess and the

00:27:49
spiritual teachings of the goddess, which is really coming

00:27:55
to the forefront now more than ever.

00:27:57
It's about learning about the psyche and how the psyche plays

00:28:04
its part in our spiritual ascension, or my spiritual

00:28:08
ascension.

00:28:09
And so for me, it's now about strengthening my connection to

00:28:13
spirit beyond this reality.

00:28:16
It's about my connection to the universe, and the way I do this

00:28:23
is through my practice of surrendering to my higher self,

00:28:29
you know, so that I can connect more and more to my divine

00:28:34
essence.

00:28:34
And that takes me on a journey of embodying my divine self

00:28:41
while here on earth, you know that's where I'm at in my

00:28:46
journey.

00:28:46
While here on earth, you know that's where I'm at in my

00:28:49
journey, but that wasn't where my intention or understanding of

00:28:52
what I was trying to achieve when I set out 40 years ago.

00:28:54
This is where I am currently.

00:28:56
This is a very compelling spiritual practice for me, but

00:29:01
not everyone feels drawn to that .

00:29:04
So it's about what aspect of spiritual experience can each of

00:29:11
us create for ourselves that resonates for ourselves.

00:29:16
That truly, you know, is an essence of spirituality.

00:29:20
That then takes that person on their own journey of exploring

00:29:27
what spirituality is for them.

00:29:29
So, while I continue on my path , you know it's about for me,

00:29:37
about embodying my divine gifts and talents, is about being a

00:29:41
pure instrument of light, which for a lot of people might make

00:29:47
no sense at all and it's about supporting others to on their

00:29:52
path, becoming more empowered in a way that resonates for them

00:29:57
so that they can embody their light.

00:30:01
I feel like in our relationship together, I'm a.

00:30:07
I feel like I'm a translator, you know, definitely, um.

00:30:12
So like I try, and I'm trying to sort of take some of the

00:30:19
things you're saying like, again , I've written down 700 million

00:30:22
things and we won't be able to go into all of them today, but

00:30:26
they there.

00:30:26
But what I try and do is take some of the things that you're

00:30:29
saying and then translate them into kind of um, everyday

00:30:37
language, because I still feel like, although you know,

00:30:40
hopefully the listeners they've taken in the last few episodes

00:30:43
that we've done together, but there's still some lingo right,

00:30:47
there's language that might not resonate, I guess.

00:30:52
I mean even the word spirituality and I know you've

00:30:55
gone into, you know spent time right then explaining what it

00:31:00
means for you and how it can be presented to us on an everyday

00:31:07
level.

00:31:07
And yeah, I think it's like from what you said.

00:31:15
You know, when it's like that, it's being kind, like as humans,

00:31:19
we are kind.

00:31:21
So there's so one thing I would love to talk about not quite yet

00:31:25
, because there's a couple of things I want to say is like

00:31:29
what do you think has happened?

00:31:32
Where have we gone wrong?

00:31:34
How have we gone wrong so far away from that kindness element

00:31:41
that's taken us out of balance?

00:31:42
It's taken us out of balance.

00:31:45
That spirituality is actually what we're trying to say with

00:31:49
spirituality when we talk about it and you know you're talking

00:31:55
about ascension and awakening.

00:31:56
It's like the awakening for me is the absolute necessity that

00:32:06
we need to get back into balance , because we're talking about

00:32:13
yes, we are, we are living.

00:32:15
This is Guide to Universal Living.

00:32:18
We are living as a planetary community, right, because we're

00:32:24
connected in so many ways, has its gifts, but it also has its

00:32:29
um downfalls.

00:32:30
So we talk, there's these words that come up and, if I can try

00:32:35
and kind of string it all together, we're out of balance.

00:32:39
And one of the reasons we're out of balance is because of

00:32:44
these are words that are coming up more and more trauma.

00:32:48
Yeah, we need to heal ourselves, we need to understand what's

00:32:54
triggering us.

00:32:55
We need to do that as individuals and I think even

00:33:00
from a health perspective, like taking care of our bodies, can

00:33:05
help us take.

00:33:05
That's a spiritual practice, right?

00:33:08
Because when we take care of our bodies, we have clarity of

00:33:13
mind, we can become more aware as individuals about the

00:33:17
elements of ourselves that we need to heal.

00:33:20
That's individual, but we are each a fragment of the whole,

00:33:31
and so when you hear that phrase , I am whole.

00:33:35
It's not just about us, it's like I am part of a whole.

00:33:40
So there's this need to get back into balance.

00:33:45
So we're awakening, we are having a realization.

00:33:51
And this is part of our spiritual, the part of the

00:33:55
spirituality it's like innate in us.

00:33:59
It's within us that we are awakening because we need to

00:34:03
heal, and when we heal us we heal the whole, and the whole

00:34:11
isn't just people, it's the planet.

00:34:16
So, let's, can we do you have other stuff that you've got that

00:34:21
you want to cover off on?

00:34:22
Or can we kind of let's, let's, let's go down that path?

00:34:26
And I, I touched on um, I sort of more expressed it from uh,

00:34:33
the goddess teachings, what?

00:34:35
When we descended as a world community, we went on the

00:34:42
exploration on a whole nother level, disconnected to our

00:34:47
higher aspect of self.

00:34:49
When you say that, do you like, as we become sorry, more of a

00:34:55
global community with technology and that sort of stuff, is that

00:34:59
what sorry?

00:34:59
Is that what the original dissension happened in Atlantean

00:35:03
times?

00:35:03
Yeah, I'm talking about eons, okay, so when we became

00:35:06
disconnected, we disconnected from spirit and higher aspect of

00:35:11
herself, right, that innate ability of connection and

00:35:20
intuition, and then there's levels of that into the psyche

00:35:24
to respond to what is going on around us.

00:35:29
So we started playing out more of the masculine principle, the,

00:35:33
the masculine aspect of self, and through that process.

00:35:38
We were out of balance because we weren't working with the

00:35:41
feminine principle and this is a whole podcast in itself.

00:35:45
Through that process you know that created a whole lot of

00:35:49
experiences over many, many eons of time we were no longer able

00:35:54
to heal in the moment.

00:35:55
We'd forgotten that ability which is part of the feminine

00:35:59
principle ability to heal in the self, tune into ourselves and

00:36:04
know what we needed in the moment to clear.

00:36:07
That aspect of self got lost.

00:36:10
So when we talk about balance, where we are today is we are

00:36:17
being woken up, so to speak, to the feminine aspect, the

00:36:23
feminine principle, and through that process, bring back into

00:36:29
balance our masculine and feminine aspects of self.

00:36:33
So bring those two into balance masculine and feminine aspects

00:36:37
of self.

00:36:37
So bring those two into balance .

00:36:38
And so the types of things we talk about is, well you know,

00:36:41
working with the intuition.

00:36:42
So, rather than just acting on the rational mind and saying, oh

00:36:46
, I've got to do this before we act on something, how we bring

00:36:50
the feminine aspect of self back into balance is we say, we go

00:36:55
in and we tune and say, well, does this feel right?

00:36:59
Should I be taking this step?

00:37:01
Should I be going that direction or that direction.

00:37:04
So because we lost that, we got more, more down the path of

00:37:10
disunity, disconnection, and then that played out in so many

00:37:17
ways which we don't have time to really talk about.

00:37:19
You know, really the awakening process is awakening to the

00:37:25
feminine aspect of self, which is not about male, female.

00:37:29
The feminine principle, the goddess teachings of coming back

00:37:34
to working with um, our ability and tapping into our ability to

00:37:41
heal whatever is rising for us and come back into balance

00:37:46
through that process and working with energy and tapping into

00:37:50
nature and the elements of nature and elements of the

00:37:54
universe, is the practice of the feminine way, the goddess

00:38:00
teachings, right, which we don't have a huge amount of time to

00:38:03
talk to.

00:38:05
So I'm not sure if I answered your question.

00:38:07
I sort of went off on a tangent because it's quite a big

00:38:10
question and I guess the topic, yeah, that when, that, when we I

00:38:15
mean we see a whole bunch of stuff going on on the planet now

00:38:19
and we do have a lot more exposure to all of that stuff

00:38:22
because of the internet, because of, you know, that global

00:38:35
community, um, but does it come out of um fear?

00:38:42
Yeah, so the rational mind, it tends to be where we play out

00:38:51
fear, because we're working from the rational mind.

00:38:54
We're so working what's happening in right in front of

00:38:58
us.

00:38:58
We can't truly see a way forward other than through.

00:39:04
You know the way we tend to respond to things in the world

00:39:08
today.

00:39:09
So the awakening process is in support.

00:39:12
Say, well, if I can find balance in myself because it

00:39:17
starts with a self you mentioned that and really come to that

00:39:20
point of stillness and balance within and then responding from

00:39:26
that, well, all the things that are happening in the world

00:39:28
wouldn't be happening, would they right?

00:39:30
So we lost that connection with the self on that level.

00:39:35
But we're all reconnecting to that Now.

00:39:39
The polarity of that is obviously, yes, we're seeing a

00:39:42
lot of chaos, we're seeing a lot of trauma being released.

00:39:47
The polarity opposite to that is people saying I don't want

00:39:52
that, I don't want that, what can I do for myself?

00:40:01
That supports the stabilizing and balancing of that.

00:40:02
You know polarity and it really , as I say from a spiritual

00:40:07
perspective, it really starts with the self will come back

00:40:11
into balance with yourself.

00:40:13
Keep clearing within yourself whatever is coming up for you,

00:40:17
practice your connection and understanding your connection

00:40:22
with other people through simple acts and simple activities and

00:40:26
we touched on those things, the balancing and then ascension of

00:40:40
the planet, and then the dissolving of the negative

00:40:41
activities that seem to to be, you know, leading the way.

00:40:43
I think it's really important.

00:40:46
We, we only hear about all the negative stuff, don't we?

00:40:49
Yeah, and I like to came to balance and say, well, there's a

00:40:54
polarity, there's a polarity right.

00:40:56
So if there's that much negativity that we think we're

00:40:59
seeing or perceiving, the polarity opposite is also

00:41:03
occurring and we need to seek that out.

00:41:05
There's as much beauty, there is much kindness, there is much

00:41:13
good will going on in the world in balance with that.

00:41:18
But we don't see that.

00:41:21
So my intention today was to say what can we do as a human race,

00:41:27
what can we do as a global community?

00:41:30
That is simple, that is bite-sized pieces, you know,

00:41:35
bite-sized pieces that is practical and feel.

00:41:39
Well, I am building my own sense of spirituality and what

00:41:44
it means for me, and there's a way that I can do that.

00:41:48
And you know I've given some examples of just a simple of act

00:41:52
of kindness nurturing the garden, nurturing your neighbor,

00:41:55
looking after your neighbor, you know, working on yourself,

00:41:59
which we've sort of covered.

00:42:00
We're covering more in different podcasts.

00:42:02
You know we've sort of talked I wanted to look at it from a

00:42:05
different angle today to say what are the simple things I can

00:42:09
do in my own journey of understanding who I am.

00:42:13
And it's through that natural evolution process and I've used

00:42:15
my own journey of understanding who I am and it's through that

00:42:16
natural evolution process and I've used my own spiritual

00:42:20
journey as an example the step changes we can make, and through

00:42:27
that process we just naturally open up.

00:42:30
And then, you know, as we become ready, we see or seek

00:42:36
something more right.

00:42:38
And so where I am at in my personal journey, millions of

00:42:42
other people are on the same understanding is I'm now looking

00:42:48
at it more from a higher perspective and how can I

00:42:52
support others in their process?

00:42:55
And there is no.

00:42:57
You know, it doesn't matter where that person is in their

00:43:02
journey because it's a simple act that we do day to day.

00:43:07
It's the acts of kindness, it's the nurturing of the garden,

00:43:11
it's the being the conservationist, it's the doing

00:43:16
sacred practices on sacred land.

00:43:19
You know, it's the being the naturopath, it's being the ceo

00:43:24
that's so connected with the self that they then lead their

00:43:29
team around them into you know, amazing experiences of what that

00:43:36
business can create.

00:43:37
You know, um, it's how we, how we apply our spirituality that

00:43:42
takes us on the path of our next step and what we're ready to

00:43:46
receive or embark on.

00:43:49
And so really, uh, for me, is about the session is really

00:43:55
about trying to recognize, well, where are we on the path and

00:43:58
there's many ways that we can express our spirituality, you

00:44:03
know and finding what resonates for the individual and that they

00:44:09
continue on their path.

00:44:11
Because it doesn't matter how small a role we play.

00:44:15
If everyone on the planet walked out of their front door

00:44:19
tomorrow and recognized there was someone that was in need of

00:44:23
help, no matter how small, we are creating a shift, aren't we?

00:44:29
We're creating a positive shift .

00:44:31
We're supporting our, not only our own ascension, but the

00:44:36
ascension of the planet through that practice.

00:44:39
So if we guided to pick up meditation or we're guided to to

00:44:45
experience yoga, we're all playing our part to support the

00:44:53
ascension process of the planet, you know.

00:44:56
So, whatever part we can play daily will lead us on our

00:45:03
ascension path and will open us up, support our own awakening

00:45:09
process.

00:45:10
And whilst you know someone like myself well, you know I'm

00:45:14
experiencing it or seeking to experience it on a whole.

00:45:18
Nother level right, so there, but there's no right or wrong.

00:45:22
There is no right or wrong.

00:45:24
So, really, spirituality in the 21st century, we can recognize

00:45:29
that we all have our part to play, and it's really start

00:45:33
stems from know, creating that inner balance, and then our

00:45:38
connection with another human being, and then whatever other

00:45:43
practices we choose, and that just takes us on a continued

00:45:47
journey, doesn't it?

00:45:49
Yeah, I think what, uh, something that's really standing

00:45:53
out for me in what you're saying and just that's been sort

00:45:57
of standing out for me as I go on my own journey, is that

00:46:09
there's a temptation almost to go into that spiritual world and

00:46:18
not come out.

00:46:19
Do you know what I mean?

00:46:22
Because there's so much shit going on, like I'm just happy

00:46:26
over here doing my thing, um, but one thing that's really um

00:46:33
stood out for.

00:46:35
You've been saying, and I think that probably, as if you like,

00:46:39
depending on the depth, that you go into a spiritual practice or

00:46:43
, like you know, delve into spirituality in whatever

00:46:47
modality that is, I think it's probably part of the process

00:46:51
that you kind of go out there.

00:46:54
But when we're learning, there's a, there's an important aspect

00:46:58
where we need to bring it back in to the 3d and we yes, we have

00:47:05
, like you've talked about the fifth dimension and and.

00:47:08
But currently we are living in the third and we yes, we can,

00:47:16
you know, have practices that help us to access those other

00:47:19
dimensions.

00:47:20
Um, and, guys, if you haven't listened to that one, go back

00:47:24
and check that one out.

00:47:25
Um, fifth dimensional, uh, living in a fifth dimensional

00:47:29
reality.

00:47:29
I think the episode was called um.

00:47:33
But we are living like humans, so let's not forget about those

00:47:39
everyday practices that we can do, let's, and we don't.

00:47:43
You don't, I mean, you've chosen to um, make transference,

00:47:49
healing, your spiritual practice and your job.

00:47:52
Yeah, right, um, we don't all have to do that, no, but we can,

00:47:59
and we don't have to tell everyone about what we're doing

00:48:02
or what we're, you know, if we are meditating and that sort of

00:48:05
thing, like you said.

00:48:06
But bringing it back into that everyday experience, um, that in

00:48:12
our day, yeah, in our daily lives, like those things that we

00:48:15
can do that will help us become better humans, um to so that we

00:48:21
can, uh, I mean, nadine, imagine.

00:48:25
So you're right, and I guess my underlying message is it

00:48:35
doesn't matter what path we walk and how we walk that path If

00:48:43
our main objective is to find that inner balance, that peace,

00:48:51
harmony, joy, harmony, joy and really tap into that pure

00:48:55
essence of who we all already are.

00:48:58
You can't be anything else but other and connect out into world

00:49:04
that way.

00:49:05
So it really does start with the self and all you do is try

00:49:09
and keep refining yourself.

00:49:10
And, yes, we've talked about in other podcasts about clearing

00:49:15
all pain, but that whole refinement in the self, and you

00:49:19
know, if we were choosing to meditate and everyone on the

00:49:23
planet was meditating and even you know we all recognize okay,

00:49:27
I might run a few energy procedures because that's

00:49:29
supporting me on a whole other level Imagine everyone on the

00:49:34
planet know doing that how different the experience it

00:49:41
would already be.

00:49:42
Yeah, but you know, it's the simple little acts that we all

00:49:46
do each day that will support us to move and evolve from, you

00:49:53
know, the third dimensional experiences and we're living.

00:49:57
Yes, that, then, that's supporting the whole to ascend,

00:50:02
isn't it?

00:50:02
We're supporting the whole.

00:50:04
So it's our, each of our parts that we can play in that.

00:50:07
And really, you know, the highest spiritual point of

00:50:13
teaching is really coming into a state of unity with them.

00:50:18
But coming into a state of unity with each other, yeah, and

00:50:25
when the planet and everyone on it hits that point, that's when

00:50:31
we'll be truly living like the next golden age, you know.

00:50:35
So, really, that's the journey we're on, and so, for me, it's

00:50:41
about accepting that we all have our journey and experiencing

00:50:47
our spirituality in different ways, but really coming back to

00:50:51
that point of, you know, balance within and balance perspective

00:50:56
towards others, and allowing each other to express themselves

00:51:00
in their own unique way, that we can find a way to come back

00:51:05
into unity.

00:51:07
Yeah, one thing that I've um found really quite well it can

00:51:14
be quite confronting, but quite helpful as well is this idea of

00:51:18
um, what we see in other people is what we have in ourselves,

00:51:24
and therefore, you know, if you're, if people I guess if

00:51:27
you're being, um taken care of, people are being kind to you,

00:51:33
then that's a reflection of how you are in the world.

00:51:37
When there's someone who behaves in a certain way and it

00:51:41
might not be, you know, for another person, it might mean

00:51:46
nothing, but if we are triggered by it, if we get a response

00:51:52
whatever that is, whether it's you know, anger or I don't know

00:51:54
whatever that emotion is that we get a response.

00:51:55
Whatever that is, whether it's you know, anger or I don't know

00:51:57
what, whatever that emotion is that we get we respond to in

00:52:01
another.

00:52:02
Or it might be you know the way someone looks or the way they

00:52:05
behave at the shops, or you know in a traffic jam, or it might

00:52:08
be someone in in a close relationship.

00:52:11
If there's something that bugs you, then it's something that we

00:52:19
need to look at in ourselves and dig around and go what is it

00:52:24
?

00:52:24
And actually that's a reflection of what we're

00:52:29
projecting out, right, they're reflecting it back to us and

00:52:33
that's a point of consciousness that if, through some of the

00:52:38
things I've spoken about meditation, yoga and similar

00:52:42
right supports that process and consciousness to then take us on

00:52:49
a whole new journey of, okay, well, this person is, um,

00:52:54
reflecting something.

00:52:55
Maybe it's something I need to refine in myself, but also it's

00:53:01
an opportunity to say, well, that person's, you know,

00:53:04
struggling right now and I need to hold a level of compassion

00:53:12
and, you know, one could maybe reflect back in a point in time

00:53:17
in your life that that, yeah, I was that person, or maybe I

00:53:21
still am that person, maybe I still haven't, yeah, still

00:53:25
haven't absolutely, that's absolutely holds true, but it's

00:53:29
it's recognizing you know, we're all on this journey trying to

00:53:33
navigate through life and it's recognizing in the moment.

00:53:38
Well, okay.

00:53:39
Yes, there's something I need to look at myself, but how am I

00:53:42
going to respond to that?

00:53:43
I'm still going to respond from a place of kindness, um,

00:53:47
because that's what they need to right now.

00:53:51
Yeah, this.

00:53:53
So these are simple, and I say simple practices.

00:53:56
Obviously, when we're triggered , you've really got to hold in

00:53:59
that moment, especially if it's triggering you in a way.

00:54:02
But these are practices that support our process of coming

00:54:08
into a state of balance and oneness within which then

00:54:12
reflects out into the world.

00:54:13
As you say, if we're all doing it, we're all really consciously

00:54:18
working in that way, then we would see that in the world

00:54:21
sooner, wouldn't we?

00:54:22
Yeah, it's kind of interesting when you do think of that idea

00:54:30
of like us being all parts of this one whole thing.

00:54:33
What happens in our day to can be also be a reflection of

00:54:40
what's happening in the bigger picture.

00:54:41
Right, when there's negative stuff, that that goes on, all

00:54:45
positive stuff, um, and what we see, what we focus our attention

00:54:49
on as well.

00:54:51
I had a um experience the other day.

00:54:53
So I was driving and I had a car behind me that was really

00:54:58
impatient um, it's just a, just a um, something I noticed really

00:55:04
impatient, like wanted to get past me.

00:55:07
We're on a windy road, I was behind a truck and, um, they

00:55:12
couldn't get tried to overtake on the inside, like just, and I

00:55:17
was completely calm and I was like this shit works, man.

00:55:24
You could see what was playing out, but I could also see that

00:55:31
I've in the past that would have brought up a whole bunch of

00:55:36
anger and you know, kind of, yeah, shaking my fist and I was

00:55:42
like, oh well, that part, that anger thing's gone.

00:55:46
That's good.

00:55:47
And not only that.

00:55:49
Nadine, you could probably look back at your younger years and

00:55:52
say, oh yeah, I've done that and once you may not do that

00:55:56
anymore.

00:55:57
It might have been, there might have been a time.

00:55:59
Yeah, yeah, but also, it's an opportunity.

00:56:03
Okay, this person may be having a really bad day.

00:56:06
I'm just gonna pull to one side and let them oh well, I did, I

00:56:10
did that, yeah, I did so.

00:56:12
You know there's lots of aspects to everyday life.

00:56:16
You know, uh, we, that we've.

00:56:19
We say, well, these are the types of tools to work with.

00:56:22
The all the podcasts are there and will continue to be there.

00:56:25
It's really drawing back to right here, right now.

00:56:30
What's my spiritual practice?

00:56:32
Is it yoga, is it meditation?

00:56:35
And there's a whole stream of amazing.

00:56:38
Is it sound therapy?

00:56:39
You know color therapy, is it?

00:56:42
You know art there?

00:56:44
You know whatever it is for a person, because if that's

00:56:47
supporting that person to come more into their true but any,

00:56:53
whatever the practice is, is an act of spirituality.

00:56:58
Really, that's where I'm trying to come from.

00:57:04
And so whoever listens to this and says, well, I don't go to a

00:57:07
church or I don't run energy or anything, oh, I'm a real lover

00:57:13
of nature and I participate in cleaning up the local

00:57:17
environment, I like to do that, or I am a conservationist.

00:57:21
What I'm trying to say is it's so easy to look about all the

00:57:26
negative stuff going on in the world around us.

00:57:29
There's so much.

00:57:31
There's a polarity opposite of equal, of really, really good

00:57:36
stuff going on in the world, and that's where we should put our

00:57:40
energy and say, oh well, that's, you know, I can do that, that's

00:57:44
how I can contribute.

00:57:46
You know, in my daily life, you know, and what I can

00:57:50
participate in that resonates with me and that just takes that

00:57:54
person on their journey right of opening up.

00:57:58
You know what, where that takes them, you know, and it's all

00:58:04
perfect.

00:58:05
Yeah, one uh, really simple practice which is very effective

00:58:10
is gratitude, absolutely, um, we haven't done it for a while.

00:58:15
I should bring it back, but as a family, because I think, you

00:58:20
know, let's not forget.

00:58:21
Like we can do things for the stranger, we can, you know, have

00:58:25
try and be thoughtful for the person who's angry in the car or

00:58:29
whatever, but let's start with people that we're actually in

00:58:31
relationship with every day.

00:58:34
Not forget about our kids and our partners and, um, you know,

00:58:39
other family, um, so we used to sit around the dinner table and

00:58:44
after dinner we would uh say three things that we were

00:58:48
grateful for and, uh, it makes you think about the good things

00:58:54
in your life and what gives you joy.

00:58:56
Right, and it's been proven to rewire your brain, and that is

00:59:05
an act, if you ask me, that's an act of spirituality.

00:59:08
Yes, absolutely, starts with the self, the family.

00:59:11
Yeah, gratitude.

00:59:13
Brilliant example and so easy, um, have you got anything else

00:59:19
you'd like to add before we close?

00:59:22
For today we've sort of meandered to my summary.

00:59:25
So I think we should all look at ourselves and our lives and

00:59:33
celebrate, no matter how small a gesture, action, deed, word

00:59:38
that we find ourselves doing in any given day, and we should

00:59:43
celebrate.

00:59:43
Well, this is a thread that supports spirituality in the

00:59:48
21st century, and we can recognize that in the moment,

00:59:54
and the more we all do that, the more we move forward and get to

01:00:00
that point of community unity.

01:00:02
But we're heading in that direction, so that's the good

01:00:05
news.

01:00:05
You know, we can play our part in getting there sooner, can't

01:00:10
we?

01:00:10
Yep, and co-creating that unity , consciousness on the planet.

01:00:17
Great, I'm trying to think.

01:00:20
If there's anything else I want to close with, I think I'll

01:00:25
close with just a couple of things.

01:00:27
So you know, I think previously I thought that spirituality,

01:00:32
when someone would say, are you spiritual, I would think do you

01:00:36
believe in God or do you have a spiritual practice?

01:00:40
You know, do you say prayers or whatever?

01:00:42
That was kind of what I thought , and I have a different um

01:00:46
connection with it now, um, which I won't necessarily, I'm

01:00:51
not going to go into, but for the listeners out there who

01:00:54
might feel the same way, I just wanted to kind of say there's

01:00:58
some things that you might say in your everyday life that

01:01:02
probably show that you have.

01:01:04
Well, we all are spiritual, whether you use that word or not

01:01:10
, but there are things that can happen in our everyday lives

01:01:14
where we go God, it was such a coincidence or it was real, it

01:01:21
was a real synchronicity, or feel like I've known you before.

01:01:27
Have we met deja vu?

01:01:29
Um, you know some of the sayings we say, oh, it's all part of

01:01:33
life's rich tapestry.

01:01:34
You know whatever it is?

01:01:37
Um, I think that they're kind of like inklings, that you know

01:01:42
a gut feeling, oh, I just knew.

01:01:44
Or, yeah, they're all inklings, aren't they?

01:01:49
That we have got the spirit in spirit inside us?

01:01:52
Yeah, and just to capstone that , spirituality is a journey.

01:02:01
So you're you've got going away with a different impression of

01:02:06
spirituality in the 21st century , but spirituality is a journey,

01:02:11
right, and as our own spirituality unfolds, it leads

01:02:18
us to a new understanding and I think, from my perspective,

01:02:24
we're all on the journey and we're all walking our path, and

01:02:27
we're doing it in different ways , and that's leading us to

01:02:32
higher teachings of spirituality and we're doing it in a way

01:02:37
that resonates for us is what we should be celebrating.

01:02:40
Yep, same same, but different, right?

01:02:44
Yeah, absolutely great.

01:02:47
Thank you, laverne.

01:02:48
Everyone, I hope that you've enjoyed this, um, part five of

01:02:53
guide to universal living, um, and it's giving you some things

01:02:57
to ponder about spirituality.

01:03:00
Great, okay, laverne, until next time.

01:03:05
Talk to you soon, nadine.

01:03:07
Thanks a lot, bye.