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Speaker 1: Hello, it's Nadine here, and I'm here with this
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week's episode of Life, health and the Universe, and this week
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I'm joined by Kim Kent, who is dialing in from Perth.
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Wa, hi, kim, she's dialing in from the future.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's Friday morning for me, so it should be
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your Thursday evening.
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Speaker 1: Just Friday morning 10am.
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It should be your Thursday evening.
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Just Friday morning, uh, 10 am, 10, 30 am, yeah.
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So yeah, you're a few hours ahead, but we're on the same day
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oh, okay yeah, yeah, gosh, I know it's so confusing.
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Um, before we go any further, kim, let me do a quick intro of
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you, um, and then I'll hand over to you and then we'll get stuck
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in.
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So welcome, kim.
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You are dialing in, as I said, from Perth and you're Perth's
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leading money mindset and financial coach.
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You're renowned for your wealthy as I'm gonna say it fuck
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money coaching program in the uh, in all your advertising.
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It has a little, but we were, we're allowed to throw an f-bomb
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here and there I'm so fucked with an asterisk I figured out I
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figured that if you're going to call your program that, then
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you you're not scared of an f-bomb.
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Um, so you've helped countless women overcome their money
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mindset blocks, achieve financial freedom and break the
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cycle of generational scarcity.
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You've been featured in a whole bunch of uh different
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publications, including osprey, mamma mia inside small business
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and there's a whole bunch more.
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Really Really excited about this conversation.
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I've read a couple of money mindset books written by women,
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so happy to talk about those, and I'm sure they've come into
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your world.
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But yeah, money is one topic that we haven't had any chatter
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about on the podcast, so I'm really looking forward to this
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Welcome.
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Well, I'm excited because I'll always bring a different spin
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around money too yeah, I've already got questions.
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Speaker 2: I'll just claim it like I'm a Aussie through and
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through.
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I swear because I'm passionate, so I'll probably swear, I'll
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try and be.
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Look, if you don't like swear words either, don't you?
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You can stop listening.
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Yeah, otherwise, pretend that she didn't say them.
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Just be fine the world, you'll be fine, but yeah, so I have a
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bit of a potty mouth.
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I'm totally blaming the Aussie culture on that.
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I go on tangents, I lose my train of thought.
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I want to blame my brain, but before I had a kid I was doing
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that anyway.
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But I'm here to have the deep chats just to get straight to
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the good juicy stuff.
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Speaker 1: Great.
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So I've covered off enough in the intro.
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We're just going to get stuck straight in Brilliant.
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I want to start with something kind of high level and just
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about women and money, because we hear there's so many training
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programs, books and they're all written by men, and when
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they're written by men they're really for the men's world.
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So where do you sit with all of that?
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Because there's too many mindset books that I've read
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Barbara Stanny, overcoming under earning, and Denise Duffield
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Thomas, who's also an Aussie, who's written Chill and Prosper,
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and she does a lot of money mindset work but they're the
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only two women.
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I mean I have to admit I haven't done any research,
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you're the third, but women don't talk about it.
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So, like we're in a man's world , how do we as women come into
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our own power when it comes to money?
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Speaker 2: yes, this is.
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It's such a powerful question and I think when you know, when
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you look back on your life and it's like the hindsight, you
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realize I've always, I've always , was meant to do this.
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I was always meant to work with money.
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Because I'm a very I, I want to say I am now.
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I'm not now, but I was very strong masculine energy because
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you got, you know, I've always been entrepreneurial.
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Like I was hustling my parents for pocket money as like extra
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money.
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I was bagging up leaves to clean up the garden, like 50
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cents for a big garbage bag.
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I think they were underpaying me, but you know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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I'm still trying to get away with paying 50 cents for the
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same sort of thing to my kids, true?
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Speaker 2: true.
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No, back then, 50 cents could buy you a lot from the delis,
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buy lots of lollies.
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Now you can buy one one little gummy bear or something.
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Anyway, I've always had this entrepreneurial fire within me
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and it did come from my lack of like.
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I wasn't born into wealth.
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There was so much scarcity around money.
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My parents always fought about it.
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Then they divorced.
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I knew more than more about child support than like any
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other parent at my school, like I'm the first born and female
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and I have a little brother, like.
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So with the divorce it just it was a shit show.
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It literally was a shit show financially and I took on a lot
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of stress.
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So I've always wanted money because I always thought, well,
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if my parents had more money they would have been happier.
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But then I want more money because then I will be happier,
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right.
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And then I saw my parents sacrifice levels of happiness
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and freedom for stable incomes and it's like you can't have
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your cake and eat it too.
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It's like you have to choose one or the other.
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I'm like that's bullshit.
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No, I don't want that.
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So anyway, coming into my adulthood and I got into
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business straight away after uni because I couldn't get a job.
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You know, I did the thing, got the degrees, got two because I
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thought I'd make more money, there were no jobs going fell
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into the online space and I share that kind of backstory
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because I fell into network marketing.
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So that's where I started my journey and it's full of the
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personal development and it's all men, men, men, men, men.
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Now there's women in personal development.
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We're like 90% of sorry network marketing.
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It's like 90 or 95% it's women doing it.
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Yeah, everything you learn is very male dominant, and
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especially when it comes to money.
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So now I say I've lost you a question again.
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I'm like which?
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Where am I taking this?
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Speaker 1: it's women and women and money, and and money, yeah,
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yeah so I feel like it's a male.
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Speaker 2: It's male dominated in the sense of, because when we
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think of money we think of cat.
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Well, not even today, but even only a few years ago, it was
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still cash, where cash is measurable, cash is tangible and
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that's of a masculine energy.
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So the logistics of money is masculine the numbers, the
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budgeting, the control, all of that.
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But then the energetic side is the feminine energy, like the
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emotions and all of those things .
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So it's like the go-to with money.
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We just think about the cash in the bank.
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But the cash, yes, it's money, but what we have in the bank
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just reflects our relationship with the money.
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You see how this is where the female thing ties in.
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But I will say I've read a lot of the books and I find it's not
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to throw anyone under the bus because I find a lot of the
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books.
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And I find it's not to throw anyone under the bus because I
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find a lot of the female dominated in the money.
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They're just very mindset, yeah , and I think mindset only, and
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then I find a lot of the men.
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It's like the tangible strategy , yeah, yeah.
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And so this is where I I guess this is what makes me different
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in a way and I'm really proud of it because I'm like well, you
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have to have both.
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And if you think about, like yin and yang, the duality of life,
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like energetics, physics, science literally proves the
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balance in energies, you can't have positive without a negative
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, so you can't have one side without the other.
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So if you really want to master money, you actually need to
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have both.
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But yes, it's very it feels male, dominated because it was
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just money, was so focused on the practical first, and now
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there's the wave coming through of hang on, there is the
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energetic side.
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It's actually money just reflects how we think and feel
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about it.
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And look, us women can tap into that more.
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But I find there is coming more of a balance, but it is it's
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still very women, emotional, men , practical.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay.
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And I feel like with the mindset stuff as well, like it's
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really interesting.
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I think Barbara Stanny's book is quite interesting because
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there are some practical elements where it's like it just
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puts you through, like the words that come up when you
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think about money or when you think about how much you'd like
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to earn, like where the number kind of stops, and then it feels
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like uncomfortable to go beyond that.
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Finishing sentences like my mum thought X about money, my dad
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thought x about money, like I think that that's, um, that was
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really cool.
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But the mindset stuff, what I feel like, even with mindset
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stuff, it can still be a bit kind of practical right, it can
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be like just think this way and then you'll get this.
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And it's not like that, I don't think what I've learned.
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Speaker 2: There's layers because I love I love to dive
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into this stuff, because I'm all about like my vision is to
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break the generational hand-me-downs of the mentality,
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because the reason I think maybe not me now because I've done
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the work, but, kim, pre, I need like an.
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I always talk about these.
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I need like it was 2018 is when I started the work.
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So I need like a like d-day.
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I need something because it feels like it's like pre-Kim and
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post-Kim, if that makes sense.
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The pre-kim scarcity, lack, driven and anxious attachment to
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money.
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Kim, where was I going with this?
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She?
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I'm so focused on what the d-day I'm calling from my
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transformation yeah, sorry say train of thought lost.
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Speaker 1: No, all good time to take your time.
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What was the question I was just saying about mindset and
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how it it, it can, it can still seem kind of like practical.
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Think this way and you'll get this, thank you so gosh, this is
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great.
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Speaker 2: I haven't had my coffee this morning.
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Love me, love me for this.
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So yeah, this is real life.
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You know I'm like down with it.
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Yeah, the thoughts that I had this is where I was going.
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I'm on track thoughts that I had stemmed from my childhood,
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because when I was born, I was born as a blank canvas, right, I
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was this pure energy.
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But a baby doesn't know it's a fucking human.
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When it's born, it actually still thinks it's a part of the
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mother's body so we're all yeah we're born as this blank canvas
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and then, as we grow, our biggest influences mom and dad
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stereotypically, mom and dad, or whoever is the parent role they
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get their paintbrushes out and they start to teach you what's
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right from wrong, what's black from white, what's day and night
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, all the things.
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So when it comes to money, you'll you learn, like you
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develop your relationship with money, from what's day and night
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, all the things.
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So, when it comes to money, you learn, like you develop your
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relationship with money, from what you're taught.
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And it's not necessarily just like mum saying you know it's
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good to save and you should budget, which is all the shit
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that we heard, but it's witnessing, like we learn from
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how our mum and dad behaved, how they spoke, how they reacted.
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So that's what develops our beliefs.
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So then that's hardwiring in our subconscious mind.
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That's setting ourself up for our future.
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So then, you know, we get to this adult life where we want to
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hit goals and we want to achieve things and, if it's, we
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want more money.
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But the thoughts that we have that are painted on our canvas,
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that design us, if they're in alignment with there's not
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enough.
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Rich people are greedy.
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Money doesn't grow on trees.
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You should work really fucking hard, or you should just work
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harder or you should just be grateful for what you have.
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Like it's come from a lack and a scarcity and if you are
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holding on to those which I did and then I wanted big monetary
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goals and I wanted to hit certain earnings amounts and
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money in the bank it didn't align.
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It doesn't align.
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So, yes, there's like a practical.
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Well, just change your thoughts .
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Just change your thoughts.
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Now.
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This is what people don't get and because this is what I spent
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years trying to do, I spent years just trying to paint new
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thoughts on top of the canvas consciously.
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But your subconscious mind is like 4 million or something
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times stronger than your conscious mind.
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So that's your autopilot, that's your actual go-to and
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that's what's dictating your relationship with money.
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So, yes, there's a practical to change your mindset, because
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it's actually getting out the elbow grease and the turps and
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whatever else gets off paint.
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This is like acrylic paint, by the way.
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It's not like water based shit that you can just wash off like
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the hardcore.
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It's embedded into the canvas.
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We've got to do the work.
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We've got to do the practical steps to reprogram our mind.
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So that is where the masculine comes in, the, the feminine part
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of it is like the trust, understanding that it is your
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emotions um it's, it's energetics, it's actually yeah,
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yeah, yeah, wow, okay, cool next straight, in like straight um,
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okay, so let's, let's talk a little bit more about your story
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and, um, where do I want to, where do I want to go with this?
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I love your brain.
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I'm the same child.
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I'm at a crossroads and there's five different roads, five
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different roads.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, um, so pre-kim, we'll just call you that for
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now.
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Yeah, pre-kim was, let's say, you were stuck, so you had all
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of these ideas about what you wanted.
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Do you feel like what you wanted had to change?
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Because you know, really, what you wanted was out of lack, was
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because of lack in your childhood, right?
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So did you have to change what that was about?
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Because, if, because really essentially, if you just want
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and it's because you feel like you haven't got it, yep, you're,
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you're in that same cycle, right?
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Speaker 2: it's so, really, when we don't feel like there's
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enough money in the bank as much as I don't want anyone who if
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you're listening and you're like I wish, like I feel like
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there's not enough, like I'm not trying to depress you right now
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, awareness precedes change, okay, but if you feel like
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there's not enough in the bank, it just reflects you feeling
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like you're not enough yourself.
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So I spent my whole childhood, my adolescence and the first
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part of my 20s never feeling good enough and I was constantly
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seeking things externally to validate me and make me feel
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good enough.
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And I just had a lot of like money was just a big key part of
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it, because I was like if I have more money, then I'll have
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freedom.
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Because right now I feel trapped and I saw my I grew up
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seeing like life is trapped financially and just it was a
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sense of trauma, like little T trauma.
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I wouldn't call it big T trauma , but for me it was still
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traumatic, like I was a little girl who never felt good enough.
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So, no, I was always chasing more, more, more.
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So, yes, you have to.
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You have to.
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You have to realize, like I did , I was searching for something
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outside of myself and one of the things is I want more money
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because I want to build like I had big goals and big dreams and
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ambitions.
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And I know I'm someone who, like I, want to fly business
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class.
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I want to travel the world.
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I want to live in a house with ocean views.
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I want big because it's a desire and I've learned that to
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live in a house with ocean views I want big because it's a
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desire and I've learned that.
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You know you're born with.
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Your desires are your birthright.
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Like some people don't care for that, that's totally fine.
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But my financial stability is like tiny little thing, like my
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next birth.
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If I have another kid, like I can pay for the private midwife
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so I don't have to deal with rules and regulations because
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that's my freedom, but it's cost thousands of dollars.
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I want to buy.
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It's the.
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Do you know what I mean?
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That's just big goals for me.
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Like I want.
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I don't care about the nice car , but I definitely want a nice
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house and I don't want to have a mortgage and I want to be able
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to pay buy things for my parents who are stuck and, no matter
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what they do, they will not listen to me, but I'm the hype
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sheep.
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They're stuck in their story.
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Bless them, love them.
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But then how nice would it be that I could just buy my mom the
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new.
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She needs a new car, because to her, like I, would just be a
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love, love to be able to just do that.
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Yeah, it's like that sense of freedom, of choice.
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I'm a big freedom, yeah so what ?
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Speaker 1: what did you um?
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What do you think are the biggest changes that you made
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pre-kim and post-kim?
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What if you could kind of list some of like pre-kim thoughts,
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practices, behaviors, pre-kim?
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Speaker 2: through the process now current yeah, pre-kim was
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like I hit the top of the company in the network marketing
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.
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Okay, earlier I was earning 100k a year with no child, no
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mortgage, and I wasn't married yet.
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Is this free, free, kim?
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Okay, I hit.
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I hit the pinnacle position in this company.
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I got all these things.
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I had residual income.
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I was getting eight, seven to eight grand a month, even if I
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did no work because I'd built it up.
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It was never enough.
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I was broke.
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My credit card was always maxed out.
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I would be fighting with my now husband when we were together.
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He would do something he'd want to spend and I just have.
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It was a control like.
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I would react in a way like hang on, but then all I'm doing
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is stripping him from his power because I just had to control
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everything outside of me, because I didn't feel stable
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within.
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So that's how it looked.
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But the thing is I'd buy the clothes and I'd buy the wine and
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I'd buy all the instant gratification, but it still was
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never enough.
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And then, when I did the work, and it's like it's simple it's
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not easy because you're dealing with your emotions I'm literally
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reprogramming my belief that I actually am worthy because I was
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born worthy.
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So you're doing, you're peeling back all these layers.
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So when I did that work and literally learned to love myself
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and know that I'm actually fucking amazing and look, don't
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get me wrong, it's a journey.
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It's not a like light switch and it's just forever like it's
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a journey.
00:18:47
Um, I'm not perfect, but I believe that I'm worthy of love
00:18:50
and I know my mum and dad love me and I know my husband loves
00:18:53
me and I know my friends love me when before I was constantly
00:18:56
chasing that validation and thinking otherwise.
00:18:59
So I guess, post Kim, new Kim, wealthy Kim or like that,
00:19:05
wealthy as fuck Kim, because that's the plan.
00:19:06
I'm gonna say it, we're gonna say it now that we said it from
00:19:11
the start.
00:19:11
Um, she well, look, me and my husband never fight about money
00:19:17
and we used to strangle each other, like because we got
00:19:20
married.
00:19:20
I didn't start doing the work until a year after marriage and
00:19:23
we got married almost seven years ago.
00:19:26
Six years ago can't keep up and we would like fight like cat
00:19:30
and dog because and it's just, I was just, it's just what my
00:19:35
parents did, it's the exact same thing I was living out them and
00:19:39
I'm like this is going to end in divorce, like we're going to
00:19:41
separate because of this toxic relationship with money.
00:19:46
But yeah, so right now, we never fight about money.
00:19:49
We're on the same team.
00:19:50
There's stability, like I actually trust the circulation
00:19:52
of money.
00:19:52
And the thing is, I will still get triggered.
00:19:55
Things will happen Like I had to get new tires on my car and
00:19:59
like I remember back when my car tires cost $160 each.
00:20:06
Now I'm thinking like I'm talking like 10 years ago
00:20:08
because I'd still like it if that was the case.
00:20:10
No, and I literally got them done yesterday and I have an SUV
00:20:13
now because you know, mom car it's not a big one, it's a rav4.
00:20:15
So if you know, it's not like a 2016 rav4.
00:20:18
I haven't needed to get tires.
00:20:19
Or if I have, like my husband, he just did it, he just so in my
00:20:23
head, cool new tires be about $200 each, so like $400 a tire.
00:20:30
Yeah, old Kim would freak the fuck out, new Kim would.
00:20:34
The thing is it's still like oh , like I could do so much more
00:20:38
money, so many more things.
00:20:40
Like I don't value tires.
00:20:41
I don't care about the tires until, obviously, you want to
00:20:44
care about your tires because safety, but it's not high in my
00:20:47
value.
00:20:48
But I didn't.
00:20:49
Really, I didn't freak out because I'm like it's a part of
00:20:52
life, like the money's going to be there.
00:20:53
It's not like I put away a dollar every day for my tires.
00:20:57
I don't do that but I don't freak out.
00:20:59
But the trigger was there, but I don't freak out.
00:21:03
Yeah, and I have the protocols and the embodiment and so this
00:21:08
is the feminine, the feminine energetics.
00:21:10
I have the embodiment.
00:21:11
I've had the discipline that I've practiced and built these
00:21:13
new habits so that, like it's not a big deal, yeah, I'm not.
00:21:18
So, yeah, I hope that kind of paints a bit of it yeah,
00:21:21
definitely.
00:21:22
Speaker 1: Um, I heard something the other day and uh, it was I
00:21:27
thought it was quite interesting um, about lack and our fear of
00:21:34
lack or scarcity.
00:21:36
But in fact, most of us we have fear, but it's totally
00:21:42
irrational because we've never actually been in a.
00:21:44
Yeah, we might have had, you know, parents that had
00:21:47
difficulties of their own when they, you know, were married,
00:21:51
and when we were growing up, my dad was like a fairly, you know,
00:21:57
work hard, save, turn the lights off when you go out of a
00:22:01
room, don't waste, eat everything on your plate, like
00:22:04
all of those things.
00:22:05
Like don't waste, don't waste, don't waste.
00:22:09
Speaker 2: I shared bath water with my brother, so I would
00:22:12
probably have to do that.
00:22:14
Speaker 1: I would be like he will, we in the bath but yeah,
00:22:19
but we so, but we have, so we have these, that that stuff
00:22:22
that's gone on and that fear of lack, and it can come from from
00:22:26
those circumstances and perhaps you know, they had their own
00:22:30
experiences that they've brought with them.
00:22:32
Well, they definitely have, um, but we've actually, we have
00:22:37
this fear of lack even though we've never actually had nothing
00:22:42
it is because that's the belief .
00:22:44
Speaker 2: We were hard.
00:22:45
Yeah thing is, when I've got two things to share on this
00:22:49
right, I've got a little example that will make us think
00:22:51
differently, but it is.
00:22:52
It's because it's stored in your nervous system.
00:22:54
So part of my, one of the modules we go over this it's,
00:22:57
it's your identity.
00:22:58
So my nervous system, identified with that lack, is
00:23:02
like worrying about money.
00:23:04
I didn't die there, so it was actually safe, even though it's
00:23:08
uncomfortable.
00:23:08
My nervous system didn't know how to fully trust that the
00:23:12
abundance that you know.
00:23:14
Money is unlimited.
00:23:15
It's not limited, but we grow, we get told, thinking it is, but
00:23:20
because my nervous system had never been in that, that wealth
00:23:23
state, that trusting state, it goes, my brain goes.
00:23:26
Well, you could die there because you've never been there
00:23:29
before.
00:23:29
So we want and this is the push pull we have, especially as
00:23:34
women, because we've a lot of generational expectation,
00:23:37
hand-me-downs, you know, and we have this like we want to expand
00:23:41
.
00:23:41
This is another example to share, but I will remember the
00:23:45
baby before I'll come back to the baby example.
00:23:48
But this is one of my new metaphors, because I'm all about
00:23:50
metaphors.
00:23:50
It's like we, we grow up and it's like air blowing into a
00:23:55
balloon.
00:23:55
So we're the balloon and then what happens is the paper mache
00:23:58
goes around because they're the beliefs, right, and then we're
00:24:00
safe as this size.
00:24:02
And then we usually get to adulthood.
00:24:04
I have experienced it late 20s, into 30s different generations,
00:24:08
it's a different age point, but it's kind of like the time.
00:24:11
Now there's a big awareness, we're evolving and but what
00:24:15
we're trying to do is like, okay , well, I want my balloon to be
00:24:17
bigger because I want more, I want to hold more, I want to
00:24:20
expand my capacity, but you've got this paper mache that's hard
00:24:23
.
00:24:23
So it's like this kind of like you know what I mean like this
00:24:28
frustration, and it's like I'm trying to expand and then
00:24:30
something keeps me contracted.
00:24:32
Um, so, and that's because we want to stay safe, we don't want
00:24:36
to do the work to peel back the paper mache, because the
00:24:41
nervous, our nervous system and subconscious goes.
00:24:43
But if your balloon gets bigger , you might die, you might not
00:24:46
be able to handle that.
00:24:47
So we kind of fuck ourselves over.
00:24:50
So again, awareness precedes change.
00:24:52
Then you go do the work and you, if you can't do it yourself, I
00:24:55
spent years trying to do it myself, but I didn't know the
00:24:58
strategies and the systems and the protocols.
00:25:00
You go and invest and you get the help.
00:25:02
I got the coaches.
00:25:04
I finally decided I was.
00:25:05
It's because I hit that point.
00:25:06
I'm like I'm earning good money with no big commitments.
00:25:11
Why the fuck am I still broke?
00:25:12
So I finally hit this goal, financial goal.
00:25:15
If I'm still feeling the same, all right, kim, you can't do it
00:25:18
by yourself.
00:25:19
I went and got the coach.
00:25:20
I went and read the books.
00:25:21
I went and implemented.
00:25:22
I went and got the accountability.
00:25:23
I did the programs I took from here, there and everywhere.
00:25:26
But I want to share the baby analogy because this is where it
00:25:30
literally is perception based on our beliefs.
00:25:32
When a baby's born like this stat I got for probably about
00:25:38
five years ago, so it's probably increased now but like a
00:25:40
newborn baby's born every minute , I think they said on average
00:25:48
around the world.
00:25:48
So are we thinking like, right now, as we're speaking, a
00:25:50
newborn baby is taking its first breath?
00:25:50
Whilst that baby is taking its first breath, are we here
00:25:53
freaking out that there's going to be less oxygen for us?
00:25:55
No, we trust.
00:26:01
Yeah, great point.
00:26:04
But there is an abundance of oxygen.
00:26:06
We trust it, but we haven't, I'm sure, if we were grown up,
00:26:11
brought up with beliefs around, that's going to run out and we
00:26:14
create a lack around the oxygen.
00:26:16
We're going to start fucking hoarding oxygen tanks, like the
00:26:19
behavior see the scarcity behaviors.
00:26:22
So this is the same with money.
00:26:23
This is why this it's and it has been passed down.
00:26:26
We can blame our parents, but if we stay a victim of it, we're
00:26:28
never going to make change.
00:26:29
So, yes, thanks mom and dad for fucking me over with my
00:26:32
financial mentality, but yay for me for taking responsibility to
00:26:38
change it.
00:26:39
It's because I have to trust that, just because the next
00:26:44
general, the next lot of 13 year olds who are legal enough to
00:26:47
work now they're going to go out to the job and make money, just
00:26:49
because they're receiving money , is that going to be less money
00:26:52
to go to me?
00:26:53
No, but can you see how?
00:26:56
It's?
00:26:56
Just perception yeah.
00:26:59
Speaker 1: I'd like to point out , though, that I'm not like it
00:27:04
when, when you said you know we're not going to run out of
00:27:05
oxygen, that doesn't necessarily mean uh, earn and spend right,
00:27:11
because you've proven that that doesn't necessarily work
00:27:15
energetically.
00:27:16
If you're in the, if you're in the wrong mindset about it the
00:27:20
wrong mindset and this is where we talk.
00:27:22
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about universal laws.
00:27:23
I don't know if you have that down ready.
00:27:24
Yes, yes, yes, let's go into this, because when I learned
00:27:27
about so this is what I love with what I do and what I find a
00:27:31
lot of the money coaching out there it's missing because I had
00:27:34
to get it from all different places is it's like the science
00:27:37
meets the spiritual, and spiritual is energy.
00:27:40
Energy is proven by science.
00:27:40
Still, the fucking thing, right , one can be more masculinely
00:27:45
seen and one can like usually spiritual is way more feminine.
00:27:48
It's just an interpretation to a degree, right?
00:27:52
So this is where I learned about universal law.
00:27:55
So the universe we know.
00:27:58
Here's a science lesson and I'll share it in layman's terms
00:28:01
because I'm like that's what I'm yeah, it is all about the
00:28:05
layman's terms.
00:28:05
Yes, all about the layman.
00:28:06
So the smallest measurable uh piece of matter is an atom.
00:28:12
The atom is made up of energy and it has both positive and
00:28:16
negative waves, negative waves.
00:28:18
So these waves, they're not stagnant things.
00:28:21
It constantly waves from positive to negative, positive
00:28:24
to negative.
00:28:24
So it's proven by science, which means everything is made
00:28:26
up of energy, which means everything is moving in a wave,
00:28:29
or cycling positive, negative, like up down, up down, opposites
00:28:32
, right.
00:28:33
So then these there's universal laws that govern the balance
00:28:38
and homeostasis and harmony of the universe, which keeps, keeps
00:28:42
all the energy in balance, and the degree.
00:28:45
This is what one of my past coaches said.
00:28:47
I think he said it sounded way more smart.
00:28:49
I don't even have a good grammar, so you know way more
00:28:54
smarter than this Up in like the hood, like the gangster ghetto
00:29:00
area, like I failed English, like don't judge my grandma, I
00:29:04
reckon you're doing pretty good, me too.
00:29:08
No, uh, so where was I going with this?
00:29:11
Everything is made up with of energy, uh, the universal laws.
00:29:15
They govern us to keep us in this space.
00:29:17
So my old coach.
00:29:18
He said something like the degree in which we struggle as a
00:29:22
human is how much we resist universal law.
00:29:25
So the more, the more we resist universal law, the more we're
00:29:29
going to struggle.
00:29:30
First I didn't really understand it and this applied
00:29:33
to everything in life, but obviously I'm going to talk
00:29:35
about money specifically.
00:29:36
So one of the universal laws is the universal law of
00:29:40
circulation and if you think about it well, energy circulates
00:29:44
.
00:29:44
It has to.
00:29:44
That way.
00:29:45
It's a circulation.
00:29:46
Time is cycling.
00:29:47
Nature cycles.
00:29:48
Our human body cycles.
00:29:50
We have systems inside our body that cycle.
00:29:52
Things cycle.
00:29:54
You're either growing or you're dying.
00:29:55
A plant is either growing.
00:29:55
You breathe in, you breathe out .
00:29:57
Exactly so, if everything in life has to cycle, the more we
00:30:01
trust the cycle of it, the more we're going to be in alignment
00:30:04
and in flow.
00:30:05
The more we resist like, the more we don't trust it or have
00:30:12
lack or scarcity, the more we fuck ourselves over.
00:30:14
So when it comes to money and this is where, when there's a
00:30:17
belief around money is limited or there's not enough or you're
00:30:21
going to run out, there's a lack you're not trusting.
00:30:23
Run out there's a lack.
00:30:23
You're not trusting in the circulation of it.
00:30:25
Money is energy.
00:30:27
I literally can transfer you a hundred dollars right now to
00:30:29
your bank and there's no physical touch in cash exchange.
00:30:32
Money is actually energy.
00:30:33
Obviously we want to.
00:30:34
I still believe cash is king.
00:30:36
We want for other reasons, but it's just energy.
00:30:40
So when it comes to to, this is we, this is the spending.
00:30:45
So this is where, like my long-winded answer, bring it
00:30:47
back to the spending.
00:30:48
If you have a belief, an embodiment of lack, like your
00:30:52
go-to emotional reaction is lack , you're still going to spend,
00:30:56
hold, receive.
00:30:57
So that's my little diagram spend, hold, receive.
00:30:59
But your ability to receive is it's not enough, it's not good
00:31:04
enough.
00:31:04
I'm still not worthy.
00:31:05
No matter how much I get it, I'm not fulfilled.
00:31:07
You want to hold on to it because you want to hoard it.
00:31:09
I was a fucking great hoarder with nothing to show for it.
00:31:13
I would hoard, have to save, have to save, but then
00:31:15
constantly dipping because I couldn't handle it.
00:31:18
And then spending.
00:31:19
I never wanted to spend, but I always spent because I had to
00:31:22
pay my bills and I still bought clothes and traveled, did all
00:31:26
the things.
00:31:26
So we still follow because you can't mess with universal law.
00:31:31
It's going, money's going to cycle, but if you're, if you're,
00:31:35
driven by lack, it's not.
00:31:38
You're never going to trust the circulation of it and you're
00:31:40
going to keep having this like restrictive, trapped, fear,
00:31:43
anxiety, stress.
00:31:44
Your nervous system is just going to be going crazy and, as
00:31:48
I said before, you could if that's a comfort zone for you.
00:31:50
That's why it's your go-to yeah, that's what I was going to say
00:31:53
yeah, when you align with the universal law and this is a work
00:31:56
that I've had to do it myself and this is what I teach my
00:31:58
clients.
00:31:59
Speaker 1: When we trust the circulation of money, this it's
00:32:03
like the nervous system hums and we're in that balance, that
00:32:07
beautiful hum, that energetic hum, like the universe is when
00:32:09
everything's in flow so that was the word I was going to bring
00:32:14
up, actually, because I heard a another thing, uh, recently, and
00:32:19
it was, um, it was about energetics and it was about like
00:32:22
, what, what can block?
00:32:26
One of the things that can block us is that idea of flow
00:32:29
and that denial of flow, and that's not necessarily like, oh,
00:32:32
I don't want to spend, but it could be like someone emails you
00:32:36
and asks you a question about your work and you don't respond.
00:32:39
Yeah, you're blocking the flow, that potential for for things
00:32:44
to keep moving.
00:32:45
Yeah, um, yeah, saying no to work for no other reason that
00:32:51
you like, I don't know this, you know, yeah, anyway, the flow
00:32:54
thing yeah, denial it can be a.
00:32:58
It can be kind of a slippery thing that you don't you you
00:33:01
might, yeah, yeah it might kind of slide under thing that you
00:33:03
don't you might yeah it might kind of slide under the radar.
00:33:06
Speaker 2: Because there's no structure.
00:33:07
Right, flow needs structure.
00:33:11
So this is where the masculine, feminine oh my God, whatever
00:33:17
the femme.
00:33:18
I'll just say that this is where, like you, can't have the
00:33:21
masculine without the feminine.
00:33:22
So if a river wants to flow, right, a river flows, the
00:33:27
water's flowing.
00:33:28
The only way for it to flow that has the river banks to
00:33:30
create the structure.
00:33:31
If the riverbank disappeared, it would become a lake where
00:33:33
everything would just flow.
00:33:34
It would just like start to expand and expand until it stops
00:33:37
, like there's no, it's not flowing.
00:33:40
In alignment was where it's meant to go.
00:33:42
So flow requires structure.
00:33:45
So if we don't have a structure , which is a sense of discipline
00:33:48
, this is a masculine, which is the strategy, or it's all those
00:33:52
three things.
00:33:53
Discipline, which is your strategy, systems, structure,
00:33:57
discipline, right, they all work together.
00:33:59
Now, if yours isn't in a lot, if you don't have a set strategy
00:34:03
in the discipline, in alignment with the outcome you want,
00:34:06
right, you're not going to flow there.
00:34:07
You're going to try and be like , oh, I just, I just don't want
00:34:10
to do the masculine, and I've been there too.
00:34:12
I don't want to hustle and I don't want to do it strict and
00:34:15
all these things.
00:34:16
I just want to trust and hope I get there.
00:34:18
Yes, you can trust, but that's the whole sitting on a rock
00:34:21
waiting for a million dollars to like be handed to you on a
00:34:23
silver platter.
00:34:24
You know it's unrealistic, we can't say anything's impossible
00:34:29
because it's impossible.
00:34:31
I highly doubt it's very realistic.
00:34:34
So do you see what I mean?
00:34:35
Like we need to create the structure.
00:34:37
So then, if we get the email because someone you're running a
00:34:40
business and you want to increase your income and
00:34:42
someone's inquiring, your discipline is like I get back to
00:34:46
these people, even if, like, I prefer you to dm me on social
00:34:50
media, then send an email because I'd rather voice message
00:34:53
back than have to type.
00:34:54
But I know I'm like, I want a sale.
00:34:56
I I want my intrinsic goals is to make more money.
00:35:00
My extrinsic goals is to make impact and change lives.
00:35:03
Right, there's equal both.
00:35:04
You can't have one without the other.
00:35:05
But I'm, like this person's contacted me through email like,
00:35:09
am I going to sabotage by not following my own structure, or
00:35:14
am I going to be like, hang on, I do want to help this person
00:35:16
that's going to help me get to the outcome that I want
00:35:19
implement the discipline.
00:35:20
So then then the money is going to flow to you.
00:35:22
So I hope that makes sense.
00:35:23
Yes, yeah, yeah.
00:35:26
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about hustle.
00:35:27
Where do you sit with that?
00:35:30
Do you need to?
00:35:32
Speaker 2: hustle.
00:35:33
Yes, because you can't have hustle without flow, you can't
00:35:35
have ebb without flow.
00:35:37
So hustle and ebb are the same thing.
00:35:38
It's the duality.
00:35:39
And the thing is we're in a man's world, building business
00:35:45
in a man's world.
00:35:45
So I hustled the reason I in my first business, the reason I
00:35:50
hit the top of the company in three years, which was
00:35:52
semi-record time.
00:35:53
People were doing it in like five or six years and then
00:35:56
they're doing it faster now in the network marketing industry.
00:35:58
But back then, yeah, I hustled my little ass off.
00:36:01
But the thing is I did it from a masculine point, which is what
00:36:05
we learn growing up.
00:36:07
There's a stereotype of hustle.
00:36:08
It's masculine energy.
00:36:09
I would hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle.
00:36:11
Burn the fuck out, need to retreat, need to recover.
00:36:16
And I was on this roller coaster and what happened?
00:36:18
I hit the pinnacle position.
00:36:21
We went out the day after, my team took me out for champagne
00:36:26
and we all celebrated.
00:36:27
And the next day after that I was like, right, what's the next
00:36:30
goal?
00:36:30
I was straight back into it's not enough, I gotta keep
00:36:33
hustling like I couldn't even celebrate what I had achieved.
00:36:38
So hustle will work at for women it it works, but it comes at
00:36:42
the cost of your energy, burning out quality of life.
00:36:45
Okay, so, because I didn't have the trust and the flow and
00:36:50
there's a feminine way to do it.
00:36:51
So now how I do business like I earn more and work less than
00:36:57
ever before with my own business and I have a toddler who only
00:36:59
now goes to daycare two days a week before I did this all in
00:37:03
her nap times because the hustle is and this is my own quote is
00:37:08
you have to have a vision bigger than your bullshit.
00:37:10
The key to success is a vision bigger than a bullshit.
00:37:13
So if you're a key to your, whatever your success is, if
00:37:15
it's a financial goal, a business goal, it can be going
00:37:17
anywhere in your life, right?
00:37:18
The reason that we don't feel like we can succeed to hit our
00:37:23
vision is because the bullshit becomes bigger.
00:37:25
I'm tired, I don't want to have to work hard, or I don't want to
00:37:29
have to do that, or I just want to be whatever it might be.
00:37:32
It can be anything and there's all excuses are equal to a
00:37:36
degree.
00:37:37
You know, I have a child, you don't have a child, or I don't
00:37:39
have a child, or I don't sleep at night, or my husband, or I'm
00:37:43
a solo parent, or I'm sick, like it doesn't matter, right?
00:37:48
But where I'm going with this is to get to have a vision
00:37:52
bigger than your bullshit.
00:37:53
That's going to pull you through.
00:37:54
So you're going to hustle, meaning you're going to do the
00:37:57
aligned action, not just working for the sake of working.
00:38:00
So like when I work, it's like being a mom.
00:38:03
I get so much more shit done and then you think pre-baby.
00:38:06
You're like what the fuck did I ?
00:38:07
do with all my time.
00:38:08
I had the whole day and I slept like and I worked 16 hour days
00:38:15
thinking I just got to keep working and I'm just throwing
00:38:17
spaghetti at wall and there's no structure and whatnot.
00:38:19
Now I do hustle, so I'm in a space.
00:38:22
If I know I have an income goal , okay.
00:38:25
What needs to happen?
00:38:26
What disciplines need to be in place?
00:38:28
What strategy?
00:38:29
What help do I need to get?
00:38:30
Where do I need to strategically balance?
00:38:34
Balance is schmellons anyway, but like when I parent and when
00:38:38
I work, and what am I okay with?
00:38:41
Like you know, screen time does help me build a business, even
00:38:45
though I used to be anti-screen timer before I had a child, but
00:38:48
all these things.
00:38:49
So, yes, hustle.
00:38:50
If it's in alignment with what you want, it's not going to feel
00:38:53
like hard work.
00:38:54
And if it starts to feel like hard work, as in resentment,
00:38:57
stress, frustration, get a strategy that supports you.
00:39:03
Speaker 1: I feel like hustle has just got a bit of a negative
00:39:04
, negative connotation.
00:39:05
And you, you like, I wrote some stuff down while you were
00:39:08
talking and then you said all of the things.
00:39:10
So you know, so, like for me, because I've worked in the
00:39:14
health and fitness industry I see people you know personal
00:39:16
training as a personal trainer see clients burnout.
00:39:20
You know people who get personal trainers are often, you
00:39:24
know, wealthy corporate and then they just work their butts
00:39:29
off and then they literally get sick, burn out.
00:39:32
Everything goes, sick, happens shaped.
00:39:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, the sick happens to get you back into
00:39:37
flow, because that's the hustle right.
00:39:40
Speaker 1: That's kind of like the connotation of hustle.
00:39:43
Speaker 2: To me it is it is 100 and it is like the thing is a
00:39:46
man can and it's not to be.
00:39:48
I think I'll be so carefully.
00:39:50
Am I going to sound sexist, right?
00:39:52
Now they can't do it they can't do it either, but they, they
00:39:58
can groundhog day because they have an extra layer of Because
00:40:03
they're the linear men.
00:40:05
Speaker 1: They're the linear, we're the cyclical.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: They're hormones.
00:40:09
They're reproductive cycle.
00:40:10
Yes, they still go through a cycle, but it's not like ours.
00:40:14
Speaker 1: Like every hour or something.
00:40:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, ours literally had a 28-day, stereotypically
00:40:20
with peak seasons and where different energies are in your
00:40:22
body.
00:40:23
So there is a level that men can go to work in their
00:40:26
corporate job nine to five, then go to the gym, sleep for five
00:40:29
hours, live off eggs and tuna and it like builds loads of
00:40:34
muscle and it's like not burnout .
00:40:36
But women, there is a different layer, um, but the thing is
00:40:41
that's one thing it doesn't feel like hustle when you're in flow
00:40:45
, but it's when you're in alignment and like things that
00:40:48
used to frustrate me, like I now know that my cue is frustration
00:40:52
.
00:40:52
If I get frustrated or I feel like I'm hitting, like I'm
00:40:55
trying to do it all myself and that energy is blocking me, and
00:40:57
that's where it feels like just push through, you should work
00:41:01
hard, which is a belief system when I read Programmer, I'm like
00:41:04
well, no-transcript, and I'm going on a tangent, but I feel
00:41:10
like it's relevant.
00:41:11
Then, when it comes to this hustle culture, like our two
00:41:14
biggest, most valuable commodities is time and money.
00:41:17
Right, time is the most valuable because you can always
00:41:20
make more money back.
00:41:21
You can't make more time back Now if you want to achieve
00:41:26
something faster, which usually means I've got to hustle if you
00:41:30
want to do it.
00:41:30
If you want to, what is it?
00:41:32
Collapse time.
00:41:33
Whatever the saying is, it's just going to cost you more
00:41:34
money.
00:41:35
So spend more money, reduce the time frame.
00:41:37
If you want to save more money usually because you're doing it
00:41:40
yourself or you don't want to get help you're it's going to
00:41:43
increase the time frame.
00:41:44
So you've got a way out and I've been there too.
00:41:48
I would get like, say, we call it the toxic hustle, because I
00:41:51
wouldn't want to spend the money and I wouldn't want to get the
00:41:52
help.
00:41:53
I want to try and do it all myself, but I'm not a jack of
00:41:55
all.
00:41:55
If I want to be a master, I can't be a jack of all trades
00:41:59
and I would burn out trying to do everything and that's a toxic
00:42:01
burnout.
00:42:02
The hustle, yeah, and like I hustle now, but I have a team, I
00:42:07
am.
00:42:08
I'm very.
00:42:09
When I have the time to do it, I'm like super disciplined.
00:42:12
I've trained the discipline.
00:42:13
So I've got two hours kid-free today and I'm going to get so
00:42:16
much shit done.
00:42:17
And then after that, as much as I would love to keep doing
00:42:21
things, it's like no, I'm parenting now, or Kim, you
00:42:24
actually need to enjoy your life .
00:42:25
Like what can you go do that fills up your cup.
00:42:27
But I still hustled.
00:42:30
Most hours it was like dedicated in alignment with the
00:42:34
tasks.
00:42:34
I like to do.
00:42:35
That need to get done, to move the needle.
00:42:37
That's how I view it.
00:42:39
Yeah, cool, I think it just needs a new word and we just
00:42:43
need to reprogram our beliefs around it.
00:42:45
Yeah, like, really hate the hustle and flow.
00:42:48
It's like, no, I choose to believe to love the hustle and I
00:42:51
make it work for me so I never burn out, so I can flow in my
00:42:55
hustle.
00:42:55
I don't know that sounds hilarious hustle, flow, hustle
00:43:01
yeah, um, cool, let's.
00:43:07
Speaker 1: I've got a whole bunch of questions but, like I'm
00:43:09
, I think we're going in a good like we've got our own flow
00:43:13
going right.
00:43:14
Um, abundance, like obviously you're a money mindset coach, so
00:43:18
when we talk about abundance, you're talking about money.
00:43:22
Is that because it's something tangible tangible for people
00:43:28
like does abundance just mean money to you?
00:43:31
Speaker 2: no, if anything.
00:43:32
I'm like abundance is becoming an ick word for me because it's
00:43:36
like so trending and cliche but you can't.
00:43:39
What is it what's measurable and what's not?
00:43:43
I always get them confused.
00:43:44
Subjective objective which one's measurable Objective, I
00:43:50
think?
00:43:50
Speaker 1: Oh, is it?
00:43:51
Speaker 2: Okay, I was going to say subjective, oh yeah, so
00:43:59
abundance isn't necessarily abundant generically, is not
00:44:03
measurable, because abundance to me something different to you
00:44:05
and abundance abundance actually just means like a lot of, or an
00:44:09
overflow of, or more than expected or more than enough.
00:44:12
Right, yeah, we associate it with money, just like good
00:44:17
wealth.
00:44:18
We associate wealth with money.
00:44:20
Money is one area, what money is one pillar.
00:44:24
So then, if you're talking abundance with money, it's
00:44:28
abundance with money.
00:44:29
Yeah, because the thing is we do and it's, I think, maybe
00:44:32
because I got so into this movement at first because I felt
00:44:35
so much lack and I'm like I just want abundance everywhere.
00:44:38
But we forget to see what we already have, and that's the
00:44:40
perfect example of the baby taking its first breath there is
00:44:43
an abundance of oxygen, there is an abundance of money.
00:44:46
It's all how we perceive it, but I don't really use the term
00:44:58
term.
00:44:58
I don't really teach it around money because it's so
00:45:00
multifaceted and what it means for everyone in different things
00:45:01
.
00:45:01
So I guess yeah, that's kind of my view on I wouldn't teach you
00:45:05
like, how can you create an abundance of money?
00:45:06
Because you probably already have an abundance of money.
00:45:09
You just can't see it.
00:45:10
Yeah, yeah, I can give you some .
00:45:12
I can give you guys some tangible things you can go do.
00:45:15
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah so let's talk about your work
00:45:19
specifically now, because we have been.
00:45:21
I don't even know, I can't see it.
00:45:24
It's it's almost 20 past, so we've like we've, wow, I know
00:45:30
we've been in flow, yeah.
00:45:40
So let's talk about your work specifically, because obviously
00:45:42
we want to, we want to know how to find you and all of those
00:45:43
things.
00:45:43
So who do you work with?
00:45:44
Do you work with, like you've kind of suggested, that it's
00:45:49
women who are in business or entrepreneurs um, women who are
00:45:58
in business or entrepreneurs, but, like for the stay-at-home
00:46:00
mom who has difficulties with cash flow.
00:46:01
Speaker 2: Yes, so look, at the end of the day, 99 of my clients
00:46:05
are female.
00:46:06
Yes, I have 100 who don't even come onto my calls and stuff
00:46:09
because men, they just.
00:46:11
It is a stigma, you know, I do help but and a lot of the men
00:46:15
who do my work are the partners of the ladies.
00:46:16
So, yes, it's women, but it's not necessarily an avatar where
00:46:21
you're a business woman or you're a corporate or you're a
00:46:24
mom.
00:46:24
It's.
00:46:25
If you earn money and you feel like you haven't got anything to
00:46:30
show for it or you should have more to show for it, or you
00:46:32
should have be further ahead, or you feel stuck.
00:46:33
Or you feel like you haven't got anything to show for it, or
00:46:35
you should have more to show for it, or you should be further
00:46:36
ahead, or you feel stuck, or you feel like, no matter what you
00:46:37
do, it's still that payday to payday cycle, or you just don't
00:46:40
feel organized and in control or in that personal power.
00:46:44
That's who I work with.
00:46:45
So inside the program there is a beautiful mix of like startup
00:46:49
business owners.
00:46:50
Business owners that are absolutely killing it because
00:46:53
they're earning the money and they're still like where the
00:46:56
fuck is it all going?
00:46:57
Like I need help.
00:46:57
I have mums who have FIFO husbands, so they are the
00:47:02
stay-at-home mum, but they're you know, they have their income
00:47:05
.
00:47:05
They're a team and they want to organise that.
00:47:07
I have the independent mum, I have the independent mum who's a
00:47:09
business owner.
00:47:10
It's a blend, but I don't.
00:47:13
Look, I don't work with victims.
00:47:18
I've tried to help everyone and , look, I can be a huge victim
00:47:20
myself.
00:47:21
I learned from the best.
00:47:21
I spent a lot of my time, my early life, as a victim.
00:47:23
Like poor me, woe is me.
00:47:24
It's everyone else's fault that I'm broke.
00:47:25
You know, I can't work with victims because I can literally.
00:47:28
I can literally hold your hand and give you everything you need
00:47:31
to set up to never worry about money.
00:47:33
But if you don't do it, you'll blame me how do you determine um
00:47:37
who's a victim?
00:47:39
you can tell you, look, if I'm triggering right now, I'm
00:47:41
triggering some right now like, oh my god, this Kim woman thinks
00:47:45
she thinks it's so easy yeah, she doesn't know I'm triggering
00:47:50
your victim.
00:47:51
We all have victim ego.
00:47:52
My victim ego is the same part of it, right, one is more
00:47:55
self-righteous.
00:47:56
One is more self-righteous depending on the situation.
00:47:58
We all have it.
00:48:00
But if it's being triggered right now, it's because your
00:48:02
victim ego is just responding to me talking.
00:48:05
Your higher self is probably going oh my god, this makes
00:48:07
sense or there's something, or I'm curious.
00:48:10
Why is this triggering me?
00:48:12
But look, when I have people reach out, if they apply for the
00:48:15
program because I usually do a little call first to make sure
00:48:18
qualify for it I can tell by the answers you share and I'll just
00:48:22
give you, like, a free resource to start like I'm super
00:48:24
transparent and, as I said, if this is someone or you're like,
00:48:27
oh well, kim's not going to take me on, you're being a victim.
00:48:30
Don't be a victim.
00:48:31
Like, step into personal power.
00:48:33
But I mean that with love, lots of love, hands on my heart,
00:48:37
giving you lots of love, but anyway, so you work with all
00:48:40
sorts of different people, women mostly.
00:48:44
Speaker 1: What's your, your program?
00:48:46
Do you have an online program?
00:48:47
Do you go out and do talks?
00:48:49
Speaker 2: it's online because it's the best way to talks.
00:48:55
It's online because it's the best way to serve with everybody
00:48:58
.
00:48:58
So the program is wealthy as fuck and it's it's a money
00:48:59
program, but it's it's self help , it's like a self worth program
00:49:03
.
00:49:03
It's I'm helping you become the most wealthiest version of you.
00:49:06
So what I do is my it's an online course and then I have um
00:49:10
live, a live community and weekly group coaching as an
00:49:14
extra bonus for the first 12 months.
00:49:18
That you get that for free, just to support you, because
00:49:20
I've designed this.
00:49:21
I used to do one-on-one, but I can't help everyone one-on-one
00:49:24
because so much time.
00:49:26
So I designed this for the independent mum with ADHD who
00:49:31
runs a business because she wears all the hats and feels
00:49:34
like she has no time.
00:49:35
If she can get through this course in bite-sized pieces,
00:49:39
anyone can do it, you know.
00:49:40
So you have the course.
00:49:42
I teach you my four-step formula um, which is my money blueprint
00:49:46
to never, to never, have to worry about money.
00:49:48
So you create financial freedom in your current budget.
00:49:50
Yeah, because it has to start.
00:49:52
If you want more, if you want more money to have financial
00:49:55
freedom, you'll just your spending habits are the same,
00:49:57
you can earn more and you'll just feel the same.
00:50:00
So we got to set the structure up.
00:50:02
So my three pillars that we cover are mindset, management
00:50:05
and manifestation.
00:50:06
So it's the perfect blend of the feminine and masculine.
00:50:10
We balance it out out.
00:50:11
So the mindset is you know how I talked about the canvas and
00:50:14
the acrylic paint.
00:50:15
I give you my three-step process that strips that paint
00:50:19
back off, reprograms the subconscious.
00:50:21
It's very simple, it's a skill you learn and you can.
00:50:25
You know you do it on all your money stories that come up along
00:50:28
the way.
00:50:29
Then the four-step formula to set up.
00:50:31
You get my spreadsheet as as a bonus.
00:50:33
I've created a spreadsheet to manage your money with the
00:50:35
wealth principles and universal law, so you don't have to make
00:50:38
your own.
00:50:39
Because spreadsheets give me anxiety normally.
00:50:41
I do not like this one is so pretty.
00:50:44
I took out all the lines.
00:50:46
There's no lines, you know.
00:50:48
There's none of those.
00:50:49
Like it's not a checkered box thing, it's like beautiful
00:50:51
sections with the branding.
00:50:53
It's gorgeous, but it's just a way where, like ever since I've
00:50:59
been using this, like I've learned this to a degree but
00:51:03
I've tweaked it to balance the feminine into it, like this is
00:51:05
how me and hubby never worry about money.
00:51:07
This is how we're like yep, let's put our money through the
00:51:09
blueprint, we always have enough for bills.
00:51:17
Savings, like we were able to save 100 grand in a really short
00:51:19
period of time on an average income.
00:51:19
Invest in our first property like we're going to Italy next
00:51:21
year and that's going to be like a 30 grand trip to cover
00:51:22
incomes while we're not.
00:51:23
You know all the things and it just slides in.
00:51:26
It works.
00:51:27
So you get that as the course.
00:51:30
And then the manifestation is it's like going to the gym if
00:51:34
you want to become.
00:51:34
If this is my example, if I wanted to run a marathon in six
00:51:38
months time, right, and I don't run, because I don't fucking run
00:51:41
.
00:51:41
Okay, and I'm like I'm gonna run this marathon and I do no
00:51:44
training, I'm most likely going to have a cardiac arrest at the
00:51:48
500 meter point.
00:51:49
Okay, because I don't run.
00:51:51
So I'm not becoming the embodiment, I'm not manifesting
00:51:54
being a marathon runner.
00:51:55
If I know, in six months time, I don't even know if that's
00:51:58
enough training time in six months time I want to run this
00:52:00
marathon and not die.
00:52:02
I start showing up as a marathon runner, I start to train, I
00:52:05
start to eat.
00:52:06
Well, I start to do the thing.
00:52:07
So I'm manifesting to it at a different level.
00:52:11
I'm manifesting becoming this.
00:52:13
So I teach you with the training videos, the coaching
00:52:16
calls, you just doing the work and following the strategy.
00:52:18
That's you leveling up your manifestation, so you're
00:52:22
becoming the wealthier version of you to handle your money from
00:52:25
personal power, not be reactive .
00:52:28
You know, heal any of the wounding or the childhood trauma
00:52:31
around money, having a healthy relationship with money and your
00:52:34
partner and your family and all those things.
00:52:36
So it's just this really beautiful journey and I make I
00:52:42
make it as intimate as I can.
00:52:43
So it's almost like you feel like it's one-on-one support
00:52:46
inside the group, without the one-on-one price tag.
00:52:48
Yeah, cool.
00:52:50
So that's my little sounds great.
00:52:54
Now, I believe, you have some top tips that you could share
00:52:58
with listeners so inside the, the management pillar, like what
00:53:04
you learned, there's about 20 odd principles and fundamentals,
00:53:08
fundamentals of how to manage your money, right.
00:53:11
So they've still got the structure and the discipline,
00:53:14
but it's not from a restrictive energy.
00:53:16
So, step number one I'm going to give you it's like three and
00:53:22
a half, four, I don't know.
00:53:24
I'll just give you what I share and it's like it's a
00:53:26
combination, it's like what to get started.
00:53:28
Now, just a disclaimer, because this is I'm not a financial
00:53:31
advisor and this is of general nature and I don't know your
00:53:35
personal circumstance, so that's why I can just guide you.
00:53:39
If you ever joined Wealthy's, fuck, and you got the blueprint,
00:53:41
everything's personalised to your exact lifestyle.
00:53:44
It's not a cookie cutter.
00:53:46
Cookie cutters don't work.
00:53:47
Okay, so step one you're going to stop budgeting.
00:53:50
You're going to remove that word from your vocabulary,
00:53:54
because if I say to you right now, hey, you're going to follow
00:53:56
a new budget Restriction, like that balloon might be not even
00:54:02
tighter on that balloon, right, or it's shriveled up a bit even
00:54:06
more and make the balloon smaller.
00:54:07
So you do not budget because energy needs to flow.
00:54:12
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, I love that.
00:54:15
Speaker 2: Money is just energy.
00:54:16
So if you're trying to restrict it and you're seeking financial
00:54:20
freedom, you're going to rebel on that budget by justifying
00:54:23
your spendings, doing the splurges and then feeling guilty
00:54:26
later and then downing the bottle of wine to numb the guilt
00:54:28
.
00:54:28
That's pre-Kim cycle, anyway.
00:54:33
So I know there's so many of you guys like, yeah, sorry my
00:54:36
chair's by the way, I don't know if you can hear, I'm not
00:54:39
getting it because I'm like, oh my god, it sounded like I farted
00:54:41
there.
00:54:42
No, it's my chair anyway.
00:54:47
We're not restricting.
00:54:49
You.
00:54:49
Do not budget now.
00:54:50
You're responsible.
00:54:52
You're not going to, like, blow all your money.
00:54:53
So we call it.
00:54:55
If you're inside wealthy as fuck , you just follow your
00:54:57
wealthiest fuck blueprint or your blueprint.
00:54:59
So I always say, run it through our blueprint.
00:55:01
But if you needed a more sexy and more feminine base, call it.
00:55:04
Like my system, my self-worth system, or my protocol.
00:55:08
I don't know, like I've just taken the emotion out it.
00:55:17
Or my protocol.
00:55:17
I don't know, like I've just taken the emotion out.
00:55:18
It's just the blueprint, it's my money management system, it's
00:55:20
how I manage my money, like or run it through the spreadsheet,
00:55:21
like I just changed the language .
00:55:22
So that's the first tip.
00:55:23
Now second tip is when you receive money.
00:55:24
So whether you, it doesn't matter how you get it right.
00:55:27
If you're a business owner, if you have a job, like you get a
00:55:31
wage, or if you get government benefits, they're all just
00:55:35
vehicles in which you receive money.
00:55:37
So we're all the same.
00:55:38
We just have different vehicles in which we receive money.
00:55:41
So when you receive money, the first thing that you need to do
00:55:46
before anything else is.
00:55:47
Save is put your money to your savings.
00:55:50
You and you pay your bills.
00:55:52
Now I've had so many people who've come from lack and this
00:55:56
used to be me.
00:55:56
I have to pay my bills, I have to pay my mortgage.
00:55:58
Like it's a roof over my head.
00:56:00
I'm like you're not an imbecile , you're responsible, you're
00:56:04
gonna pay your mortgage.
00:56:05
But before the banks get their money, the before the gas
00:56:09
company gets their money from you, give yourself yourself yes,
00:56:14
and that energetic act of doing it first supports or builds the
00:56:20
subconscious evidence of I am worthy, I am good enough.
00:56:24
Um, you are your biggest asset.
00:56:26
We know when we want to invest.
00:56:28
We invest in assets because it appreciates over time, just like
00:56:32
when we invest in learning the skills.
00:56:33
We do the business coaching, we do the money coaching, we do
00:56:35
the life coaching.
00:56:35
Whatever You're investing in yourself, it's the same as
00:56:38
you're investing in yourself.
00:56:40
Now, this is an extra tip because some people have said
00:56:44
well, money just sits in the savings account and depreciates
00:56:48
with the inflation rate.
00:56:49
I'm not a financial advisor.
00:56:51
I will teach you how to manage your money, to set you up to go
00:56:54
invest it.
00:56:56
So, if you have a savings account, if you have no other
00:57:00
thing that you know you want big money going into.
00:57:01
Make sure there's a bloody interest rate.
00:57:04
You get on it or offset your mortgage or put it in a term
00:57:07
deposit.
00:57:08
Be really smart about it.
00:57:11
But the it's, the act of this is me for my future wealth first,
00:57:16
then pay the rest and this is one of the biggest things that
00:57:19
helped us save a hundred grand in two and a half years, because
00:57:21
we probably saved about 60 grand of it and we attracted in
00:57:25
total 40 000 of different things that come in because we're
00:57:29
aligning with appreciation.
00:57:30
So the universe goes well.
00:57:33
I'm going to keep bringing you more.
00:57:35
That's the attraction.
00:57:36
And then, of course, instead of attracting it, attract it.
00:57:40
Put it to where it's going to make.
00:57:42
Make it work for us.
00:57:43
So there's so much I can talk about.
00:57:46
I need to write a book on this.
00:57:46
Really, yeah, you do, it's coming.
00:57:50
It's in the, in the dreamland.
00:57:51
So, save first, pay bills last.
00:57:55
Don't budget.
00:57:58
Use percentages.
00:57:59
Get the perfect percentage, uh, for each thing, because you
00:58:02
earn a hundred percent.
00:58:03
Whether you earn five hundred dollars this week, two grand the
00:58:06
next week, whatever the number is, it's a hundred percent.
00:58:09
If you spend more than a hundred percent, you're
00:58:12
overspending, and no wonder you feel like I have no money, so
00:58:16
everything.
00:58:16
You don't want fixed figures, you want percentages.
00:58:19
If you join, well, my blueprint does it for you and it's like,
00:58:23
literally to the second decimal place, the perfect percentages
00:58:26
for everything, um, and you just get really clear on where
00:58:30
you're spending, where you're overspending, where you're
00:58:32
unders, underspending, where you can put more.
00:58:33
But the percentages are expansive because if you're and
00:58:37
this with business, it's more fluctuating anyway but what I
00:58:42
see as a really prime example for the ladies I have who are on
00:58:46
fixed salaries so even if they do overtime, they don't even get
00:58:50
paid they set this in place and they're like but, kim, like, I
00:58:54
always put it like, if I do this spreadsheet or the blueprint,
00:58:59
even if it's percentage, it's always the same dollar figure
00:59:01
each week.
00:59:02
So I should I just refer to it as like I'm saving a hundred
00:59:04
dollars.
00:59:04
I'm like no, because if you tell the universe that you're
00:59:07
saving a hundred dollars, the universe goes well.
00:59:09
You only want to save a hundred dollars, why would I give you
00:59:11
more?
00:59:11
But if you're saving 10, as a example, you're, it's expansive.
00:59:18
And then what I see is women getting back pays, government
00:59:22
subsidies, their husbands are getting pay rise.
00:59:24
One of my ladies.
00:59:24
She's like within two months she got headhunted and then her
00:59:28
husband got headhunted for pay rises and she's like, and look,
00:59:32
you can call it coincidence, but how do they know that wasn't
00:59:34
going to happen?
00:59:35
So this shit works.
00:59:37
It's used percentages, it's expensive, it allows you to
00:59:40
attract more in.
00:59:41
And I'll give you one more thing, because this is where
00:59:45
like that's going forward as of now going forward.
00:59:47
But clarity builds wealth and delusion keeps you broke.
00:59:50
That is a Kim Kent quote and it applies to everything in life.
00:59:54
But the clearer you are on your money, the wealthier you're
00:59:58
going to be right, the more deluded is.
01:00:01
I only spend $150 on my groceries and I like buy like
01:00:06
one coffee a week, so it's only like $6.50.
01:00:08
And then you go actually see and you're like holy shit, I
01:00:13
spent $1 on groceries.
01:00:17
Speaker 1: That's the same as when we try and get people to
01:00:19
write down their food diary yeah , yeah, got to be truthful about
01:00:22
it.
01:00:23
Speaker 2: Clarity builds wealth .
01:00:24
Now, you don't want to do it because you have emotion around
01:00:28
this.
01:00:28
You don't want to be mortified.
01:00:29
That's the victim in you doesn't want to deal mortified.
01:00:31
That's the victim in you.
01:00:32
Doesn't want to deal like just face the fucking dragon.
01:00:34
Learn you just clarity builds wealth.
01:00:37
If you want to be wealthy, get clear like we just have to get
01:00:40
over.
01:00:40
We've got to move through the emotion, rip the band-aid so we
01:00:44
do a full audit.
01:00:45
But what I can get you to do now is go through the last four
01:00:48
weeks of transactions on your just your main spending account,
01:00:52
just on your phone.
01:00:53
Categorize it up, go see how much you've spent in what
01:00:56
category.
01:00:57
And you're going to have categories like groceries bills,
01:00:59
rental, mortgage and then what I used to call the what the fuck
01:01:03
account?
01:01:04
A category, sorry category.
01:01:07
One of my ladies the other day she's like I called mine the NFI
01:01:11
category.
01:01:12
I'm like no fucking idea.
01:01:14
You want to.
01:01:17
You need clarity on your NFI category.
01:01:19
So how much have you spent that you have no fucking idea about
01:01:21
because you can't even like I never have unexpected bills or
01:01:25
expenses.
01:01:26
I know if I saw on my spendings and it was like this company,
01:01:29
you know how the company doesn't match the net, but I'll know
01:01:33
where I spent that.
01:01:33
Yeah, there's no delusion.
01:01:36
Yeah, so do a mini audit and actually see what you're dealing
01:01:40
with and thank me later, because you're going to hate me
01:01:44
now.
01:01:46
Speaker 1: Brilliant, that's really great tips.
01:01:48
So we have kind of hit our hour and I don't want to like just
01:01:54
boot you off or anything so, but so you've, you've got the
01:01:59
course.
01:01:59
How long did you say it runs for 12 months you get lifetime
01:02:03
access to the course and the trainings.
01:02:04
Speaker 2: You get 12 months as a free bonus inside my academy
01:02:08
yeah, which is a gym and then after that you can choose to
01:02:11
stay a part of it if you want or not.
01:02:12
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, and do you have intakes all the time or
01:02:17
do you intake at regular periods?
01:02:20
Speaker 2: You can always apply for it.
01:02:22
Yeah, and you just yeah if your application is approved, yeah,
01:02:25
cool, very exclusive on, as I said, I just don't take victims,
01:02:29
yeah.
01:02:31
Speaker 1: Because?
01:02:31
Well then, yeah, the energy changes for you as well, right?
01:02:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can apply, you can suss it out.
01:02:38
It's on it.
01:02:39
Like you're probably going to ask where can you find me?
01:02:42
I'm sure we'll put the link.
01:02:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll put the links.
01:02:43
All Instagram is my favorite place.
01:02:46
Speaker 2: I have a free.
01:02:46
Facebook community.
01:02:47
If you go to the link in my bio on my Instagram, there's a
01:02:54
freebie PDF downloadable.
01:02:54
You can join my free Facebook group and you can check out
01:02:56
Wealthy as.
01:02:57
Speaker 1: Fuck, fabulous, yeah.
01:02:58
One last question how, like I think that like we're talking
01:03:06
about we've been talking about money for the last hour
01:03:11
Generally, or like I know it's changing now and we are more
01:03:15
open about it, but, um, how have you been received, like being
01:03:20
like kind of, you know, speaking out and living it large when it
01:03:27
comes?
01:03:27
Speaker 2: to I.
01:03:29
The more controversial I am, the more feedback I get.
01:03:31
Oh great, I mean.
01:03:33
But the thing is I've done enough work on myself that if
01:03:37
I'm not received well, either people are not saying it to my
01:03:40
face or I'm just not getting triggered by it because it's not
01:03:43
my shit, it's their shit it's.
01:03:45
But the thing is I'm here to help other people.
01:03:47
I'm here to break like people need this, because I needed this
01:03:50
this.
01:03:50
You know, I've come from where I've come from to now.
01:03:54
It's like if I'm just an everyday girl, I'm born into
01:03:57
white privilege but still low socioeconomic family, like lots
01:04:02
of struggles, lots of anxiety, stress.
01:04:04
So I have something that helped me that can help others, but I
01:04:08
just maybe there's people talking about me behind my back,
01:04:11
but sweet, you're talking about me.
01:04:12
They know who you are, had to be okay with myself and love
01:04:21
myself.
01:04:22
That if you don't love me, maybe I'm just reflecting
01:04:23
something in you that you haven't learned to love about
01:04:23
yourself, or I'm just not your person because I swear a lot and
01:04:26
I'm too upfront and maybe I'm a bit by again.
01:04:31
Speaker 1: Love it.
01:04:31
Yeah, I love it.
01:04:34
It's great, it's good.
01:04:35
Thank you so much for joining us.
01:04:37
As you mentioned, we'll put all of your details in the show
01:04:41
notes.
01:04:41
I've just recently started a new website, so we'll be able to
01:04:46
put your bio and all the links in there as well as part of the
01:04:50
guest directory.
01:04:51
You'll be, yeah, one of the first up there.
01:04:54
That's which would be cool.
01:04:55
Um, thank you so much for joining us.
01:04:58
It's been really a really great , fun conversation and, um, yeah
01:05:02
, I'm loving it.
01:05:04
Speaker 2: Thank you so much I can keep talking, but we'll go,
01:05:06
I could thank you so much, kim.